To be clear, I'm using the Ultra directly into the amps, and only using to stream Tidal. So far it's sounding very good, but I'm too lazy today to do direct comparisons. So far it's looking like I will use the Ultra as preamp for volume control only, as I do not anticipate other sources in this system. The Saga 2, which I like very much, would then move to home office. Thanks for the responses.