Why the switch from Kharma/Tenor to DarTZeel/VSA

Hi Mark,
How would you compare the Von Sweikerts to the Piega p10's you used to own? That's what i have now and just curious....

This is a great thread....but I am a bit troubled by the comments made by Tpsonic regarding the V-6 switch-a-rue and no one else commenting one way or the other. I am not taking any sides...only wondering if anyone else knows of this?

Rwd - Kind of makes you go "hmmmm"! 50 point discount, too!

I'm also enjoying this thread albeit from a somewhat vicarious view. It seems to be Kharma vs. von Schweikert and Tenor vs. Dartzeel. The participants appear to have the wherewithall and willingness to pursue the absolute best available (or soon to be available). So, I wonder if there were any other contenders such as the Wilson Alexandria or Grande Utopia Be for example? How do the von Scweikert's stack up against these or any others?

Indihka was waiting for a set of VSA speakers about a month ago.VR-7s with ribbon tweeter and subs.What model is this?Lost touch with him and don't know if he received them.According to his schedule,they should be in-house.Maybe he will comment.

50% discounts are offered on VSA's current speakers?

Brian , I'm sorry, but statements like that shed no positive light on you as an individual. Let alone as a dealer.

I believe that,within the industry,50% discounts are available.Manufacturers usually accomidate each other ,when purchases are made.

Let's get back to the VSA's. How come we have not heard much about the VR-7's? Are they custom made also? How do they compare to the Wilson WP 7's or the Aerial 20's?

Discounts of that magnitude certainly are not standard, but you didn't give your source of information. A manufacturer that gets 50 percent or less of retail list price for his product sets the price higher to compensate. Consumers don't always know.

Rwd: The VR-7's are coming out in a few months as the new VR-7SE. The speaker will have a lot of the technology of the VR-11 and VR-9 without the powered woofer and a ported cabinet. If I am not mistaken, they will have a front and rear firing 3" ribbon super tweeter, the new (incredibly expensive) dual ring concentric tweeter, a 7" carbon/ceramic composite midrange driver and two 10" woofers. The speakers will weigh approximately 400 lbs each and deliver huge dynamics, incredible soundstaging, great refinement, bass down to around 18Hz and finally the speaker is also designed to take advantage of the high resolution formats. It will extend to well over 45kHz.

There are two Audiogon members who should recieve their VR-7's in early September. The speakers will be remarkable. They are priced at $30k and expected to better the Wilson Alexandria's in musicality, cohesiveness and soundstaging. They should be comparable in dynamics and depth of bass. The will definitely extend further in the highs. Based on what I heard in the VR-11 and my knowledge of the similarities in the VR-7's, it will probably better anything else on the market other than the VR-9 and VR-11.

Efficiency is expected to be 93-94db senistivity and a very easy load (OTL friendly). You can also expect approximately 120+ db SPL's.

I am proudly a Von Schweikert dealer and I say this all to you knowing that I am sure you have a dealer in your area, and I have no hope of making a sale to you. I urge you to audition them when they are available. I am sure you and your dealer will agree with my assessment.

Many of my customers who are waiting for their VR-9's and VR-7's, have VR-4jr's to hold them over until their new speakers arrive. I am sure they will chime in with their thoughts on what Von Schweikert is capable of.

Brian (Essentialaudio): You are totally unprofessional and I feel a disgrace to the industry. Your negativity and condescending nature disgusts me.