Why not the piano as a reference for bass


I see a lot of commentary/reviews on a systems bass response that all seem to hinge on the 41 hz double bass and such range.  At 27.5 the A0 note on a piano seems a better point to judge.  Lots of piano in normal music vs say an organ note.  I know when I feel that deep chord played it is one of things I enjoy about listening the most!  Was listening to Wish you were here live and the piano was sublime.

So is it more of how much musical energy is perceived in the 40 hz range or what that makes this more of a reproduction benchmark?

I welcome your input!

New Joe Bonamassa out BTW!

guscreek

It is evident that nothing beat the organ if we want to test the bass  depth. But there is other dimensions of bass we can test best with a piano.

Bass is a multidimensional band registers set related to timbre in acoustical normal conditions, for this a piano cannot replace an organ, nor the reverse and the tuba is as the viol an indispensable tool.

Music is rooted in timbre perception not in frequencies per se ( as a source of information communicated by the vibrating sound source).

I am not a musician nor an acoustician. It is only what i learned tuning my system/room ...

 

Synthesizer beats an organ for bass.

All organ bass has a slow attack compared to what can be done with a synthesizer.  And the right synthesizers can go infrasonic, and not just to modulate the audio oscillators, filters, and voltage controlled amplifiers.

What synthesizer can we hear, preferably on record, that can compare and exceed the rich harmonics of a pipe organ?  Why is fast attack preferrable to slow?  Does something that is below the threshold of human hearing add to the enjoyment of the musical experience in some subliminal way?  Just wondering.

Artificially generated sound hurt my soul...

Generally...

 Why ?

 

Because a Natural vibrating sound source, a pipe  organ for example or a piano string transmit an acoustical information about its physical state...

An electronical sound do not...

 Sound is not  a subjective experience only it is an objective takes on some aspect of the physical world (timbre) informing us....

 

 It is why i hate A.I. invasion so useful it could be on some specfic case...

I dont listen electronica....

 

Synthesizer beats an organ for bass.

All organ bass has a slow attack compared to what can be done with a synthesizer.  And the right synthesizers can go infrasonic, and not just to modulate the audio oscillators, filters, and voltage controlled amplifiers.

 

What synthesizer can we hear, preferably on record, that can compare and exceed the rich harmonics of a pipe organ?  Why is fast attack preferrable to slow?  Does something that is below the threshold of human hearing add to the enjoyment of the musical experience in some subliminal way?  Just wondering.

 
 

 

 

@billstevenson 

You are well ahead of me, I can't even play the drums.  But I did not make up the bit about Yamaha using sound recorded from a Bosendorfer Imperial!

From Yamaha's Australian website: CLP-765GP - Features - Clavinova - Pianos - Musical Instruments - Products - Yamaha - Music - Australia

Newly sampled Yamaha CFX and Bösendorfer Imperial voices

Clavinova grand piano sounds are recorded from several world-renowned concert grand pianos. One of them is the CFX, Yamaha’s top-flight concert grand piano. Pianists around the world are enamored with the impressive, dazzling, richly expressive sound of the CFX in concert halls. Another sampled concert grand is the Imperial, the flagship model of Bösendorfer, a time-honored Viennese piano brand with an ardent following. The Imperial is known for its abundance of color and natural, warm feeling. Yamaha faithfully reproduces the idiosyncrasies of these concert grand pianos by carefully recording the entire tonal range of each of the 88 keys, making minute adjustments to capture the most harmonious tones each piano has to offer.