Why not the piano as a reference for bass

Thanks i will try to get it...

@mahgister 

   It is a collection of various Japanese musicians, essentially a small orchestra.

Only reference I could find is someone named K. Hata.

I cannot thank enough the person here ( i dont remember who) who recommended to use this small organ  interpretation of the Bach Klavier which is truly astounding : 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyGMg1GcqkU&list=PLaK8vS3Zo1ShbeZE1EZZi-6z6V3C0eRY6

Artificially generated sound hurt my soul...

Generally...

 Why ?

Because a Natural vibrating sound source, a pipe  organ for example or a piano string transmit an acoustical information about its physical state...

An electronical sound do not...

 Sound is not  a subjective experience only it is an objective takes on some aspect of the physical world (timbre) informing us....

 It is why i hate A.I. invasion so useful it could be on some specfic case...

I dont listen electronica....

Synthesizer beats an organ for bass.

All organ bass has a slow attack compared to what can be done with a synthesizer.  And the right synthesizers can go infrasonic, and not just to modulate the audio oscillators, filters, and voltage controlled amplifiers.

What synthesizer can we hear, preferably on record, that can compare and exceed the rich harmonics of a pipe organ?  Why is fast attack preferrable to slow?  Does something that is below the threshold of human hearing add to the enjoyment of the musical experience in some subliminal way?  Just wondering.

It is evident that nothing beat the organ if we want to test the bass  depth. But there is other dimensions of bass we can test best with a piano.

Bass is a multidimensional band registers set related to timbre in acoustical normal conditions, for this a piano cannot replace an organ, nor the reverse and the tuba is as the viol an indispensable tool.

Music is rooted in timbre perception not in frequencies per se ( as a source of information communicated by the vibrating sound source).

I am not a musician nor an acoustician. It is only what i learned tuning my system/room ...

it is probably the best piano recording i heard but because it is only on youtube i cannot be sure but in fact i think even through youtube i am pretty sure it will be my best piano recording .....

Amazing..

I also use piano as the best instrument to test my system/room not just bass alone but the relation between bass and the other frequencies...

The piano timbre is in a way more complex more multidimensional more hard to get right in recording process as in playback process in a room ...

 I like the music of Seth Kaufman a lot...Not only the sound ...

Thanks....

Among my three favorite pianists only one is well recorded...

( Sofronitsky and Nyiregyházi are badly recorded , they are my two best  only the third  Ivan Moravec is relatively well recorded  but nothing like this recording of Kaufman) 

@mahgister , I particularly like "Repercussion". At one point about halfway through Seth stands up and leans forward and plucks the strings with his fingers.  I didn’t realize that’s what was going on until I saw him perform it live.  It had never occurred to me that plucking the strings of a piano is a thing. 

Aside from that, "Repercussion" gives me chills every time I listen to it. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMI_SsJN6Zg

(In case it’s not obvious, yes I absolutely use solo piano music for evaluating speakers and for showing them off... but I’m showing off "see, that sounds like a real piano" instead of "listen to that amazing bass".)

Duke

You were right if i even listen to it from youtube...

It is well recorded to say the least...

I will buy it thanks ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0KJ1QqfJjY&list=RDr0KJ1QqfJjY&start_radio=1

Thanks very much Duke...

If you think to some other album please notice it to me...

 Thanks and my best wishes....

Amazing post! and truthful for me...

Could you please name one or two even three albums of piano very well recorded...i want to buy them...

It is very important because as you i think piano sound is a judge in my system/room...

Thanks for your time...

This is a most interesting discussion.  Ruminating further about past experiences is pertinent.  First a disclaimer.  I can hear the difference between any two pianos.  Let me explain.  When I have gone to the Steinway studio, something I have done in Seattle, San Francisco, and NYC in years go by, I have easily been able to distinguish the sound of not only say a B from a D, but B1 from B2 from B3, and D1 from D2 etc.  Or in another setting, upon entering a hall, without looking I have been able over the years to tell if the piano is a Mason & Hamlin (a favorite of mine) or a Baldwin etc.  With that as a back drop, in my misspent youth I tried (and failed miserably) to record pianos.  Choice of mics, mic placement, mic distance, room acoustics, all muck things up.  These factors make good piano recordings a rare and precious commodity.  But if you find a good one, and there are good ones, IMHO, there is no finer recording to judge your system than a good piano recording.  From top to bottom.  Bass included.

Could you name the artist in this album ?

Effectively  the viol is also an instrument useful to test bass rendition...

Re piano. I rediscovered an album from long ago that I found in the cut-out bin of a long-forgotten record store. The title is "audio symphony", Check up your sounds Vol, 1. It was produced by RCA Japan in 1976 and distributed by Audio Technica.

Testing bass is not testing a deep frequency but a lot of  band range interacting...

If an audio system/room do not reproduce  well a piano you had lost your money....

To test bass i use preferably piano, tuba, and organ ..