Who is using passive preamps and why?


Seldom has there been any discussions on passive preamps in the forums and although my experience with them has been limited I have found them so far to be very enjoyable and refreshingly different. They seem to fall into their own category, somewhere between solid state and tube. Finding a preamp that is satisfing has been difficult. Some active solid state preamps can be very good but they seem to inject grain to some degree in the upper registers and some tube preamps are not too far behind. So far I think they should at least be matched up with an amp that has sufficient gain which is often overlooked. Which passives are you using and with what amp? Why do you like them?
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I remember a conversation I had with Kevin Carter when he was building me a TVC, my first passive. I had made some comment to the effect that passives have the reputation of leaning out the sound. It took him less than a second or two (meaning he didn't even have to think about it) to reply that its active preamps that add something to the sound.

I'm leaning towards the opinion these days that a lot is in the engineering and mixing and that active preamps are more like tone controls. I was hanging out with some audio engineers this past weekend and one guy liked having his speakers against the wall to improve the bass response. I commented that to me that would hinder depth of sound stage and that is why I prefer having my speakers out in the room. His comment was that much of the depth in the sound stage comes from how the recording was done, not where the speakers are placed. I'm not sure I buy that one yet, but considering the number of fine speakers out there that are corner/wall placed, maybe there is something to it.

I agree with the argument that its the lack of distortion that creates the notion that something is missing in the sound. A tube amp should provide all the distortion one needs.
I agree and I guess it comes down to how we answer the question, what is the best preamplifier? The one does nothing )very little) to the signal or the one that sounds best to us for whatever reason. In discussing this with Ken Stevens of CAT, he felt a preamp should have the tone color of water - none; that is the job of the preamp, if you want tone color, find it somewhere else in the system or you end up with band aids to complement the various colorations within the system, but the preamp should be as neutral as possible, that's why I think the passive approach is a step in the right direction, if it works nice with your equipment. The Goldpoint is such a piece, and frankly, I don't sense any rolloff or lack of dynamics compared with my Joule and Atma-sphere pres, but it does not sound like them either.
I am using a Diy Passive at the moment as I am comparing different designs of Power Cables on my CD Player. Although I enjoy listening with my active, it is warm and colored. It is however, refreshing to have the clarity,transparency and detail of the passive at present. It is a much more elegant sound.
Cambridge Audio CD Player Output 2 Volts
.5 meter Virtue Audio Nirvana IC to Passive
Passive is wired with OCC-OFC Silver Wire and signal goes straight to a Dact-type 10K Attenuator.
Same 1 meter Nirvana IC from passive to an Audio Research VT50 input 100K.
Speakers are modified monitors and Powered Sub.
Active preamp is a heavily modified Audio Research SP 14.
I know this whole issue is a matter of taste, and will never be resolved, but I will say this for the passive argument. I had this long discussion with Roger Modjeski of Music Reference and RAM Labs - that is, a fella known as one our our great designers of equipment and a tube lover. I asked him, point blank, when I was considering buying his $135 Pot-in-a-Box if it were not possbile for any active preamp to be better, he said no. Now I know there are many of us that love our actives, I do, but he is one pretty qualified person to talk about preamps since he can design whatever he wants, and he does love tubes, but in his view a passive does what a preamp should do IF it is in a good source to amp environment. It at least made me feel that a passive isn't just a cheap solution to volume control, but for some might be as good as it gets for a preampifier (in the right system).
Rrog, well its true I thought the thread outlived its usefulness I am glad it didn't stop there otherwise I wouldn't have learned about the Lightspeed which in my opinion is extremely unique in its design. Thus the thread has produced what I orinally was seeking to begin with, something new and innovative.