Which USB Re Clocker


I have been very happy with my Innuos Zenith Mk 2 for several years. The sound  is excellent and ripping is child's play. I have been interested in adding the Phoenix Re Clocker for a couple of years, but for various reasons, haven't been able to get a demo yet. One of the selling points of the Phoenix by Innuos, is that it can be used between any source and USB DAC.

 Well it also means that any re clocker should work between an Innuos Server and DAC. The one drawback to me is that the Phoenix isn't cheap, at least as far as my budget in retirement is concerned. The Company claims that the Phoenix is more than a Re Clocker, with improved power supplies and other improvements. I don't suppose many of you guys have had the chance to compare the Phoenix with other units. Still any suggestions about other, cheaper Re Clocker units to consider? Particularly if you have had the chance to use it with an Innuos Server, but not much chance of that either. Still any advice is welcome, thanks.

david12

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@electroslacker said:

So now Denafrips releases a series of Digital to Digital converters (Iris and Gaia) and Terminator owners claim they are getting significant improvements with the costlier model In the chain.
Where have you heard/read this? I haven't been able to find any first-hand comments on the Gaia. 

Thanks,
Jay
I have to agree with @roberttdid on this. Not that you should necessarily replace your DAC if you like it, but that reclocking the USB isn't, by itself, going to make a difference if the DAC is using an asynchronous USB input with buffering. The DAC is not deriving any timing signal from the USB, so reclocking isn't going to do anything. 

On the other hand, if you are using a good quality digital-to-digital converter and using an interface other than USB between that device and your DAC, then the quality of the timing will make a big difference, and it's quite possible that such a device could have a better (even much better) clock than the DAC that it is feeding. 

It's also quite possible, as @roberttdid stated, that a digital-to-digital converter/reclocker could be reducing noise on the USB connection that is affecting the DAC's SQ. Whether using such a device for this purpose is a better investment than replacing the DAC with one that can better reject this noise directly is a decision that each listener will have to make for themselves. 

I also believe that there are some spectacular sounding DACs that don't necessarily have the best USB implementations. USB technology has evolved much more significantly in the past five years or so  than other aspects of DAC design. There are very likely some state-of-the-art DACs from five or ten years ago that will have less than optimal USB interfaces that could easily benefit from some external help for less than the cost of replacement with a more recent implementation with an updated USB implementation.