These comments refer to a Well Tempered Super, which uses the Reference arm on the Classic table. I have used the Music Maker 111, Shure Ultra 500, Shure V15 type V MRLE, Grado Master (HO), and the Dynavector DV10X Gold (a factory tweaked version of the DV10X4) Right now, my favorite is the Grado, then the Dyna. I thought I preferred the Music Maker at first, but after trying out the Grado again, I think I will stick with it. The Music Maker probably extracts more fine detail, it does have a tinier stylus. For me though , I need timbre, beautiful tone, and excitement. I absolutely hate changing cartridges because of the gruelling set up procedure, but fond memories of the pristine sound of the Dyna tell me I may switch back to it for a while soon. The Well Tempered table is capable of delivering very extended deep, powerful bass, and the Grado definitely exploits this ability better than any thing else I have tried. Not that bass is it's only strong point, it's just icing on the cake. Back when Carl Smith and Transparent were handling the Well Tempered distributorship, Grado products were the often recommended choice. By the way, don't be afraid to try increasing the arm damping adjustment far beyond what you might think seems proper. I have found there to be a magic spot where clarity is increased along with a more realistic sense of the musicians being in the room after I had exceeded the point where it seemed to sound over damped. Am I making any sense? After I thought it sounded over damped,I kept increasing the damping and discovered another region where the sound actually improved beyond anything previously attained.