Which amp with Wilson watt puppy 8


Hi there !

i live on an island with no audiophile shops around. 
I arrived in 2011 with a Jeff Rowland continuum 250 and Sonus Faber Cremona m speakers who were a great match. Unfortunately I blew the speakers a few times, then upgraded to columns, blew them also twice. I guess the amp is too powerful for them, but this time Sonus Faber was unable to provide me replacement tweeters and speakers, which is an enormous disappointment. I will never buy anything from them again. I ran through the web and found corresponding parts that I changed myself, but they seem to sound much higher in the trebles and lack bass, especially at high volume levels, (above 55%) . I tried swapping the cables, but it didn’t change anything. 
I now bought a pair of Wilson audio watt puppy 8 that arrived this week from a NYC store. I hope them to last lifetime. 
They have cost me around 11.5k$ door to door, look great and tough, but need to be driven above 60 % of volume otherwise nothing comes out of them, especially bass !
I also get the same sharp treble sound, which is very disappointing.
My problem is to find the issue : 

1/ room acoustic

2/ change my class D amplifier for tubes or transistors

3/ find better cables

4/ me turning old ?

what should I do next ? what amplifier would you recommend with this configuration (watt puppy 8, MIT Avtr 1, ps audio direct stream mk1, aurender n10, musical fidelity M6 CD) ?

thank you 


 

lendivf

I am looking @kofibaffour ’s advice who advised getting a mini dsp mic and going for tests. I will come back with that. 

Regarding placements and room config, this is an extract of WA’s manual. 
In many cases, L-shaped rooms (See Figure 2) offer the best environment for speaker setup. Ideally, speakers should be set up along the primary (longest) leg of the room.

They should fire from the end of the leg (short wall) toward the L, or they should be along the longest wall. In this way, both speakers are firing the same distance to the back wall. The asymmetry of the walls in L-shaped rooms resists the buildup of standing waves (see Figure 2). Wilson Audio Specialties P 18

i tried yesterday to call Jeff Rowland, and actually the man himself come’s in every day, but want yet present, so I will try to reach him today to see if I can get any advise from them.  

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"i live on an island with no audiophile shops around."

 

Move to Des Moines.

 

DeKay

Hi OP,

The harsh treble, especially when the volume goes up is often a sign of excess solid reflections. 

I'd suggest you consider your room and placement before starting to swap gear.

Describe your room, amps and where in the room you put your speakers and listening location. 

OP.  
I agree with GHDPrentice.  I also, in 50 years of being in this hobby, never had to set gain at 60-80%.   My speakers are only have 87dB sensitivity and my integrated amp only puts out 105 watts/8Ohms.  Even on recordings intentionally mastered at a lower loudness like Reference Recordings, 60% gain produces 110dB crescendos in my room.  The fact the you have had issues of shorting the amp a few times supports a conclusion that the most probable root cause is an amp malfunction.  I disagreed with you that the spend for repair will be more than the spen for a new integrated amp.  When I had big Krell separates, and suffering from OCD, I used to have them recapped every 5 years, an expensive deal since big Krells had many caps.  The last time I did that it cost less than $2k at Krell.  Your old and new speakers deserve a world class integrated, that preowned will be a spend at the upper range of your budget (10k).  Usually a diagnosis will cost around $250.  I would do that first.  The JR is good enough to deserve an attempt at a cure.  Respectfully, John. 

Should have pointed out, another sign of poor room acoustics is not enough bass.  The reflections accentuate the mid-treble significantly.  Adding mid-treble absorbers fixes the imbalance and lets the bass bloom.