Where to go from here?


I have a treated dedicated room with pmc ci140 speakers. So my room and speakers are done. Now i need to get the front end up to par. The pmc speakers are being fed by a denon 3700h to monolith amplifier.  I rather not get hung up on which brand is best but what makes a bigger positive improvement? I can purchade a reference dac with volume like a weiss 501 or tambaqui, or i could buy a quality integrated like a mcintosh ma9500 or hegel 590. If i get the weiss or tambuqui it will be awhile until my wallet cools off, so i would keep the monolith amp for a few years. If i get a quality integrated it would be a few yrs until i got a reference seperate dac. Sooooo......what the heck makes sense and which would make the biggest improvement?  Thanks

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OP,

I think you will find the vast majority of audiophiles still require/use a preamplifier, even if they do not have an analog end. The straight from source to amp requires equipment that is exceptional and compatible. My guess is 90%+ have not been able to pull it off and have gone back to preamps. Unless, you are incredibly experienced and willing to swap all of your electronics I would not try it. You are likely to end up with dry analytical sounding sound.

The really important decision here is the kind of sound you are looking for. Extremely detailed, or detailed and musical. Let me put my 2 cents in here. You probably want musical… tremendous details sound with slam like a great thing… but it frequently lacks the emotional connection most folks actually crave.

As far as keeping the Denon. Ok. But mixing HT and audio generally kills the audio side. Compromise is on the side of audio, They have two different objectives. If there is any possibility of separating the functions… I would recommend it. I would rather have a tiny separate room for my audio system then be able to spend 5 times more and combine them. I have heard incredible systems in rooms the size of a closet and horrible combined HT / audio systems costing many times more.

This is a hard question. From what you say, you are trying to make a huge jump…. Great idea. But if you make it too long (like years) in between the purchase of one really great component and the rest. You have a couple other mediocre components bringing the overall performance down. … years go by with a very suboptimal system.

I am not ever in favor of changes in less than 2x investment. If you want to even up the performance on all components, you have to choose from:

Streamer, DAC, Preamp, and amp.

Typically if really well chosen they should all represent roughly equal investments. The Denon is an AV box… so ideally all of its functions should be replaced.

Assuming you are OK with your amp. Then focus on streamer, DAC, and preamp. Something like a Blusound streamer (or next step up… much better), a Schiit Yggdrasil DAC, and a used high quality preamp (audiophile quality… like Audio Research, Conrad Johnson, Cary or other). The preamp really sets the tone of the system. I think you could get all these for around the upgrade cost of one piece.

This would get you a huge upgrade… and a system you could live with for years while saving up for the next level.

There are a lot of ways to do this… but I don’t like getting caught with only one spectacular piece. Although, if I did… it would be the streamer (yes, the streamer… If I was going to pick one piece I would get an Aurender N10 streamer… but then throw in a Schiit Yggdrasil DAC (because this is an outstanding streamer… I know this is counter intuitive.

 

Well, hopefully my point is clear… it is a system and one or more suboptimal components makes for a very sub optimal system.