??? Where Does "High End" Start ???


 There are terms we in this hobby use to describe certain characteristics of the components or sound evoked...Without fail,the terms entry level,mid-fi & high end will show up in component reviews or conversations regarding equipment components...
 So exactly how do we define these terms in absolutes?I understand there are components that,in this day & age,outperform their asking price in orders of magnitude but even if they do,they will invariably be tagged as entry level,mid-fi or high end simply based on their asking price..
 Assuming entry level starts at say $500.00 per component,where does that end & mid-fi start,$2500.00 per component,$3500.00,$4500.00,$5000.00?
 How far does that pricing structure go until you consider a component to be "high end"?
What are YOUR PERSONAL thoughts on this subject?

freediver

There is no way to establish parameters for any performance metric, never mind an overall assessment of what is high-end, or whatever level of performance.  Dollars don't necessarily figure into this at all.  If one's priorities in sound reproduction match a particular product's strengths, it can be reasonably dubbed the "best" even if it is modest in price. 

For example, the Quad 57 speaker is so captivating in some respects that a lot of people think it is unrivalled even to this day.  It has no deep bass, cannot be played very loud, and has a lot other limitations, but, I would not argue with anyone thinking it is the best speaker ever made. 

There are so many different paths one can take to achieving a personal high end system and no one would agree on all of the choices someone makes.  A local dealer who makes custom speakers and electronics as well as selling some quite expensive branded gear, will recommend some gear that others would find shockingly inappropriate in ultra expensive systems.  For example, he recommends reconditioned Thorens 124 turntables in systems that are well past six figures in price.  Even more shocking is that most of his demonstrations are done from a music server and that server is a Sonos device feeding very nice DACs.  When people ask about a server, he recommends that they get a Sonos from Best Buy (he doesn't even sell them). 

@fatdaddy2 

"Absolute? The point at which your significant other gets really p*ssed at your most recent purchase."

Hold on here. You're supposed to tell them????

Clearly it had nothing to do with the Indians since they were using smoke signals.  And I don't think caveman really cared.

Maybe Mozart was responsible but I think he was deaf.

Didn't Thomas Edison invent the turntable so maybe he should get all the credit.

I do not think you can assign a dollar limit to when hi-fi begins. If you did it would have to be above $2500 since you can't discern Quality music below this level.

This is a difficult question.  

I see a lot of replies stating High End doesn't have a fixed price point,that price doesn't reflect sound quality etc..
 IF THAT IS TRUE,the WHY do reviewers & MANY MANY repliers on this board,when quantifying a system or components sound,continue to specify,it sounds great "FOR IT's PRICE" or "Competes with products well above it's price point" or "punches well above it's price point"?
 

 IF THAT IS TRUE,the WHY do reviewers & MANY MANY repliers on this board,when quantifying a system or components sound,continue to specify,it sounds great "FOR IT’s PRICE" or "Competes with products well above it’s price point" or "punches well above it’s price point"?

"Punches well above it’s price point" has nothing to do with High-end or Ultra-high end. This is about how good the value proposition is. Schitt being one example mentioned earlier. Dan D’Agostino is another. Great products, beautiful industrial design, but expensive. Several brands compete well at half the cost or even less.

I don’t think you need to define high-end as brackets/price points to discuss audio.

No different than two guys with two different Corvettes. 1 is worth $100K the other is worth $40K. They both belong to the same club.