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Where are you located, as I will buy, for the right price, your Lascalas. I guess from your other thread, you are not interested in doing the midhorn damping ? Too Bad, as it is very significant in how this cleans things up. Maybe try a smaller, high quality ss amp, or a tube amp. Anything else in speakers you go to, will be quite extreme in differences, a complete 180. Enjoy ! MrD.
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Very familiar with the model 19s. The lack of coherence ( between the woofer and horn ) is something I cannot live with. As far as the B&Ws, never have I heard a pair that can reproduce the trumpet playing of Miles as accurately as my Lascalas ( as well as some other " good " horns ). To each his own, right. To the OP : I am aware that you are new to the Gon, and we welcome you, but I feel you are very confused, and not sure of what you want, so you should start listening to other things before you make a switch of any kind. We are all here to help you, given the fact, however, that each of us have our own priorities of what sounds best to each of us. Enjoy ! MrD.
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@rxonmymind...….Have you damped the mid horns of your Bells ? I have been advocating this simple mod on a couple of threads here ( a big subject on the Klipsch site forums ). It truly takes the speakers to another level. Enjoy ! |
Wolf, yes, and a few pair of Cornwall IIIs( I have done many pair of various models ). Not difficult, but very labor intensive, but worth it. If you PM me, I can give you more info. Enjoy ! MrD. |
Wolf, the series II horns are the same way, with all of the ridges. Unlike Roxy, I feel it does need to be near perfect. Each piece needs to be cut identically ( per pair ) and adhered to each horn in the same area of the horn. This is why I say it " is " labor intensive. Customers pay me to do it, because I am a perfectionist, and it does matter how exact. I am sorry, but 40 plus years doing this damping ( on metal horns as well ), gives me the right to suggest otherwise. However, as Roxy does say, it will pay off big time. Enjoy ! MrD. |
Wolf, Roxy, and everyone......Listen, all I am trying to do is to help folks maximize their investment with their horns. Why Klipsch ( and other manufacturers ) do not add damping material is understandable, because, they are " still " built to a price point; they always have been. Besides various thicknesses of Dynamat, there is a product you can buy at your local Lowes / HD, that does an excellent job of damping horns. It is a roofing repair tape, UPC number : 099713034013 , at the HD. It is easier to work with on the smaller horns than Dynamat. I tried posting pictures here on several horns I have done, but with no success. The adhesive side is sticky, and you need to use your thumbs to press down firmly onto the horns. Do a piece on 1 horn, than the other horn, as exactly as you can. Mirror image them. You can cut larger or smaller pieces, and the pieces can overlap. Make sure each pair of horns are matched, because it does make a difference. I generally do the horn tweeters as well as the woofer frames, if I have the entire speaker in my possession. In the early days, I used Mortite to do all of this damping ( mortite was great for the underside of ringing turntable platters as well, as I am now dating myself ). And my math was incorrect, as it has been 50 years I have been damping speakers. I dampen everything, actually. Anyway, I apologize if I came on too strong, but this is what I do, all for the greater enjoyment of music listening...………...Enjoy ! MrD. |
Wolf, Awesome ! I know how you feel about your H111s, but you will appreciate the design more, and of course, the music. Ozzy, I have never used modelling clay, although I don’t see why not. You do need something that will not peel or loosen off, change it’s shape, or be vulnerable to differences of hot and cold, in which it’s damping properties might change. Good luck, and take your time, as you will be rewarded for your work. Enjoy ! MrD. |
P.S. Important ! P.S. I forgot to mention that you need to leave some space around the perimeter of the widest portion of the horn, so the horn can fit flush, again, with the cabinet. This was not a concern, when the horns were mounted from the rear of the baffle. Enjoy ! MrD. |
Autospec…+ 1 Enjoy ! MrD. |
devaultcarl1 The Lascala, Khorn and Belle all use the rear horn support, as it is a larger and heavier horn than say the Cornwall, Heresy, Chorus and Forte, so I knew you were talking about the Lascala. I am guessing you have the metal horns, and they too need damping. As far as an upgrade, I do not think so at the price, but I am very partial. A pair of fast subwoofers will do nicely, and it can take awhile dialing them in to where they are coherent with the Lascalas. What are you trying to achieve with your sound system ? Enjoy ! MrD. |
Wolf, great..........subtle is good I suppose. I hear dramatic changes each and every time I do it. My ears are very tuned to the differences. With time, I believe, with recently listened to familiar music, you will hear a cleaner presentation. Enjoy ! MrD. |
