What's the deal with the Machina Dynamica Clock?

Well, so far I'm remaining on the "unconvinced" side of the fence. However, with respect to whether there's any evidence that this device has a discernible effect, absence of proof is not the same thing as proof of absence, either.

Rcprince:

I would be VERY interested in the outcome of such a listening test, and would suggest doing the test with the participants not knowing whether the clock is in the room or not. Hopefully, the test will proceed like "clockwork" and you can post the results thereof back to this thread in a "timely" fashion.

Rcprince,

Have you compiled the results of your listening test? If so, what were the results?

Sounds like a fun test. If you wanted to blind people in the first part, you could make it unknown to the participants whether or not the initial listening session has the clock deployed. They would be told that the clock was either in possesion of one of the two people or hidden somewhere in the room. The advantage would be that all participants (except the would-be clock smugglers) would be blinded throughout the test. The disadvantage would be the absence of a "known" benchmark. Either way sounds fun, and you could even do it both ways if you really wanted to.

Thanks for the invite! Geography precludes my participation, however. Maybe next "time". Anyway, I'll "watch" for the outcome of the listening test.

Although subtle, it appears as though skepticism is beginning to emerge as a predominant theme among posters to this thread.....

Geoffkait:

You may be right with respect to my opinion. So far I've not tested the device. The only way I'd consider its purchase is if I were allowed to do a test, blinded, using a couple of bags, as described above by RCPrince.

I didn't state with absolute certainty that it wouldn't be effective.

By the way, thank you for posting to this thread. It is very helpful for the manufacturer to provide input.

Geoffkait:

Your suggestion that testing on an unfamiliar system being potentially confusing is a point I hadn't considered, and seems like a very valid concern. That IS something to think about.

With respect to the guarantee, does it cover return shipping? I ask this because the Dakiom Feedback Stabilizer guarantee states that they'll even pay for return shipping, which I think is pretty bold, and potentially risky for them. It would certainly be understandable for your guarantee NOT to cover shipping, and I think it's pretty rare for ANY company to do that, just because of the potential for unnecessary expense from people who are just "tire kickers."

Anyway, thanks again for responding to this thread. I did try to carefully qualify the question in the initial thread, particularly without having tested the product. So hopefully it wasn't offensive, as it was intended to spark discussion with some fairly tame (and maybe lame?) humor. Nothing more.

One point to be made about the laetrile analogy:

Laetrile was touted as an anticancer wonder drug. Its effects are unproven. It is much, much worse to lure a potentially curable cancer patient away from standard chemotherapy regimens with an untested drug like laetrile than it is to offer for sale a relatively inexpensive device for audiophiles which may or may not be effective.

Cancer drugs have a measurable end point, life or death. No such end point exists for the subjective realm of high end audiophiles' impressions. The laetrile analogy, therefore, while technically parallel, is overly harsh,in my opinion.