What % Of Your System Are Your Cables?


IMO, the “10% rule” for cable expenditure really should be stated as “when you’re building a new system and you have a limited budget, allocate 10% to cables” and I think this is a good idea. But again IMO, this is not necessarily the stopping point. I recently purchased some new cables and I was wondering, hopefully without getting into the cable debate, what percentage of your system do you have invested in cables?  No need to go into brands or actual cost, unless you want to. With my new purchase, I would say I’m around 25% depending on whether you count my analog rig as part of the system price, as I did not buy any new cables for the TT, because my TT has captive cables. Probably up to about 30% without the analog.  I understand the percentage numbers can be highly deceiving if you bought used. 25% used is probably about 50% of your system price if you bought new. Anyway, just curious to see what you’re doing with cables. Be well. 

chayro

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@oberoniaomnia does this also mean you have no power conditioning? 

Some people are lumping that in with cabling.  And I have to say, adding a Gemini 8 from Shunyata was a massive difference.  I preferred a Cardas Parsec power cable for my amplifier over $2k nordost power cables or $400 shunyata ones.  I also have a fully treated room that I built so the ability to hear differences is not subtle in there.  I was a huge cable hater (copper is copper, 1s and 0s are just that).  Until I made friends with a local high store owner.  This relationship has cost me some dough.  But my system literally sounds twice as good.  Shunyata venom x speaker cables, alpha USB for audio interface(yes it makes a difference sorry to say for your bank account) and proper 20A circuits, and proper power cabling is quite massive.  Counting the power conditioning, and considering the cost of room treatments etc, I'm probably at 15% cables

@oberoniaomnia very interesting to hear your experiences! Wow 90V drops!! I thought mine was bad for being between 124 and 126 laugh

I wonder sometimes if this cable thing is a system thing. Like maybe some systems are more sensitive? I don’t want to say "better" because I have no idea what your system sounds like and that would be a cruddy thing to say. But maybe it’s more just about certain speakers, amplifiers etc having more sensitivity to wiring changes. Or maybe your stock wiring is just amazing?

If you get a chance to try out some shunyata cabling, do it. I had tried several bran ds too and was in the camp of "I don’t know if I hear anything different" whenever I would try different speaker cabling. For example, going from my amazon basics wiring to mogami wiring was like "hmm I think I hear a change" but then going from the mogami to the shunyata it was like "holy crud - it’s not subtle at all!". My amplifier doesn’t have an A/B so to be fair, I had to swap cables or have a friend do it. But in most cases I could discern little differences, except in the case where I purchased the component or cable. It has to be clear in order for me to shell out funds.

The same goes for power conditioning. Not impressed at all with the ones I had tried thus far until I tried out a gemini 4 from shunyata, and ordered a gemini 8 immediately since I have a 20 amp line. Difference from gemini 4 to 8 was not noticeable at all just as a side note.

I am actually about to head to the hi-fi shop to try some high quality interconnects, the final frontier for my system. I am super skeptical again about these having any noticeable or beneficial improvement to my system. But I’ll be happy to be wrong as I was about speaker cabling and digital cabling!

Friendly note to those buying cabling: find yourself a hi-fi shop. They will usually cut massive discounts on stuff you’d pay full price for online. And let you try before you buy! PSA over