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I've tried to stay out of this, but, the zealots are just begging for a rebuttal. Till I hear other wise, horns blow. It's not a myth, everything that those who don't like horns complain about is true. It doesn't matter how many times the horn fans say otherwise, they can't change the truth. Within typically sized rooms, and with enough power, other designs are capable of the same realistic dynamics. Obviously the OP wants something else, why don't we help him with what he asked for? |
The zealots always make it personal. |
Mrdecibel, your presumptions are quite amazing. Once again, the zealots make it personal. |
Hardly! I've found some of the most expensive horn systems to be amongst the worst offenders. Space might require horns, but thankfully most people here don't need to fill an auditorium or a stadium. |
There is little reason to acknowledge it. That horns can produce sounds that can fill a stadium better than typical domes is irrelevant for most of us. Those volume levels aren't needed and for the sake of our hearing not desirable. Even without things like vented baskets, and ferrofluid cooling, dynamic tweeters are typically capable of providing more than enough volume for typical rooms. Typical dynamic tweeters have proven themselves to be remarkably reliable, and even more so, with extra power available to them. |
Atmasphere, Even if my system could play cleanly at 120 dB(it can't), unless I got a much bigger listening space, I doubt that I would want to. There's a sense of scale that I seek within the confines of my listening room. I'll grant you horns can play louder than most any other loudspeakers, but they're a one trick pony, IMHO, sounding completely obnoxious in every other regard. |
Says the guy who doesn't list his own system. The zealots always make it personal. I'll bend this time, at 89 dB 1/W/m with a 4 Ohm nominal/minimum impedance, the 3.5's fed 500 Watts per channel into 4 Ohms, from a distance of just over 9', placed in a roughly 3378' (3) room, seem to satisfactorily provide loudness cues without too much concern for compression, thank you very much. |
More personal attacks by the zealots. |
JohnK, perhaps you should read the posts preceding mine to see where that 120 dB was referenced from. Furthermore, perhaps you should read the title of this thread before lashing out. While your at it, perhaps we can implore you yet again to come clean and admit the fact that you make and sell horns. Who has the most bias here? Once again, the zealots make it personal. |
Another zealot, with another personal attack. Dan_ed, perhaps you'd like to review my total posting history here on Audiogon, before handing in that bingo card. |
More personal attacks by the zealots. |
Not chased, just waiting for the zealots to inhale.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/zealots
The issue of dynamic compression seems to be academic, after all we've had decades of practical use, and minuscule amount of reported failure. Even the author of the provided link suggests what ever deficiencies might exist, might not be audible.
Perhaps Mrdecibel should consider just who should get over whom.
Attempts to use gang bullying, and suggestions of psychological shortcomings of those who don't agree, are pathetic attempts to negate opposing points of view.
One could easily return the question of; where is the science to prove that horns don't get in their own way in such a manner to compromise coherence?
I'm quite done with all of this, but I leave of my own accord, not because I've been chased away, and I reserve the right to return, should I feel the want.
BTW, I still stand by my first post on this thread; the VMPS's might be worth a consideration. |
