*****"protector of the naive,"*****
Saint AL?? :)
My 2 cents:
The Naive, should not be protected, they should be informed.
As long as electronic theory, is discussed in terms of audio equipment, "I can hear a difference" will prevail.
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****Well, that explains a lot :-)****
Au Contraire, the results were very good. No sign of age related hearing loss. A slight dip at 3k and 4k.
Now, if I could just hear those darn fuses!!
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Before we start 'hearing' fuses, perhaps someone should demostrate that they can 'hear' amps. Should be a lot easier.
I cannot believe anyone, with an EE degree, or a layman, with the most rudimental knowledge of electronics, would give this nonsense a second thought. Or even a first thought.
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****Rok2id, and why should anyone care what you think*****
I cannot think of a reason why anyone should. Esp since logic and knowledge have no place in High-End Audio. All of which has no bearing on the validity of what I said.
We ALL, know the truth when we hear it.
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*****Therefore, the fuse must "know" which direction the signal, the music signal, the electromagnetic wave, is being conveyed through it.******
Mercy Lord, Mercy!! I can only conclude that you guys sell or manufacture 'audiophile' fuses. OR, you have absolutely no concept of electricity and electrical components. Next to you, the 'cable lifter' crowd make sense.
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Just so happens that yesterday I had an appointment with an ENT Doctor. His exam included a hearing test. I highly recommend this to all Audiophiles.
It's what's called an eye-opening experience.
Yorx anyone?
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The Frogman:
I would take you up on your challenge, but the price of you winning, is tooooo high. LULU in it's entirety, I'd rather be forced to hear Anthony Braxton, on endless repeat!
I think a lot of things in audio are subject to what I call a "psychological" version of the Heisenberg Principle.
If you know, or think something is different, or has been changed, you will 'hear' different results. If you don't know or think, you won't.
Most of this, "I can hear a difference" stuff, can be resolved in 10 minutes.
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The Frogman:
My bad.
Actually I upgraded from Krell to Yorx. Do you know how many High-end companies have come and gone since Yorx started production. The things are bullet proof!!
I asked my dealer about service, and he said, if something fails, the sound stays the same, so don't worry about it! That's what I call a Stereo! I'll be jamming during Nuclear Winter.
Us Yorxies' motto is "We don't need no stinkin' Pass labs"
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*****All the cable makers, accessory makers, fuse makers, etc., who talk about direction of flow are showing their misunderstanding of the basics of electrical theory.*****
I would say that they are showing their conptempt for high-end audiophiles. They are also students of human behavior / phychology and, of course, P.T. Barnum.
They,the makers, know the truth of the matter. Any high school physics student knows the truth of the matter.
In most hobbys, the members would immediately sound the alarm, when any bogus product reared it's head. In Audio, mums the word. I guess they would rather be fleeced than admit to being just mere humans, with all the sensory limitations that come with that.
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*****What I don't really understand is why the hell you care whether some of us hear clear differences and you don't.***
I can clean that up now. I don't care. I was responding to the post by Kiddman.
I do KNOW THIS:
you can't walk on water
you can't turn lead into gold
you can't flap your arms and fly
you can't levitate
you can't hear any difference based on the position of a fuse
All are equally certain and equally obvious. Saying it, don't make it so. This is not about you, or me, or audio, or systems. It's about the hearing ability of humans.
To answer your question, I don't care. As a member once so succinctly said to me, "it ain't your money". Truer words have never been spoken.
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*****what do we call a person who will neither listen to reason nor provide any evidence contradicting the claim that fuses are directional.******
Not taking a person at their word when they say, "I can hear a difference" is your idea of not listening to 'reason'??
We can get to the bottom this, THIS DAY. Only take an hour or so.
My evidence is a matter of public record. NO one! NO ONE!! has ever been able to hear amps. They include many electrical devices. So why would anyone, capable of logical thought, think a person could hear a fuse?
Unless of course, a person did not know what a fuse is.
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I cannot prove a negative. I cannot prove someone cannot hear fuses. You can prove someone can. The onus is on the ones that say they can hear.
Thanks for a very civil discussion.
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***Time to find some other dumb topic to waste time with***
Dumb? Hardly. This thread is discussing the essence of high-end audio.
This particular thread happens to be about hearing fuses, but it could have just as easily been about ICs or PCs or cable lifters or green magic markers etc ... .
These things are what seperates high-end audio from Normal Audio Enthusiasts and Music Lovers.
If you think this is Dumb, then in effect, you think high-end audio and audiophiles are dumb.
In for a penny, in for a pound. You cannot pick and choose.
If you are, jumping ship, I understand Yorx is having a blow-out sale on certain models. Better hurry.
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