What covid research can teach us about audio measurements.


Recent studies in Canada for patients with so-called long covid show us on how science and measurements and research actually works.

Patients with long covid suffering from limited ability to exercise passed most "normal" tests but it took a new type of test to positively identify a mechanism that explained why the patients suffered.

 

Honestly there is a lot of snake oil and charlatanism in our hobby, and I don't claim to discount that fact.  What I do want to say is that science doesn't rest with 50 year old measurements.  It evolves to measure and explain constantly. 

The reason I am personally dissatisfied with audio measurements in the common literature is exactly because of this stagnation, and when these fail us we trust our ears and gut for lack of better tools. 

Anyone who runs the same 20 measurements on an amplifier or DAC and claims it is science and that these measurements are all that can be known is fooling themselves into believing that they are scientists or that we have reached the limits of understanding.

And above all, caveat emptor!

erik_squires

Showing 8 responses by nonoise

Why inject your politics into a discussion about finding new measurements?  You just come off as angry and bitter.  Try to stick to just audio for a few days.  You may find it enjoyable.

I didn't, you dingbat. Erik asked about long Covid and I pointed out that either with the vaccine or not, some became long Covid haulers, thinking their immune systems could fight it off. No judgement made, so stop with the victim act and being such a snowflake. I was being serious and didn't intend to trigger the weak minded.

All the best,
Nonoise

Why inject your politics into a discussion about finding new measurements?  You just come off as angry and bitter.  Try to stick to just audio for a few days.  You may find it enjoyable.

Sorry, I didn't see the retarded cultist crossing sign. It was an adult response to an adult question. I don't know about you but I found the article fascinating and my answer was related to it. Didn't you find it at least interesting? That it took the extremes they went to, to sharpen the focus of how it blocks oxygen absorption? 

Using that as a jumping off point is not being political. The only politics injected was by you by being so thin skinned and silly. And to make matters worse, we have ozzy and his comment, just like you.

All the best,
Nonoise

Good news for those with Long Covid and those that refused the vaccine and thought they were okay because of their superior immune systems and not dying. It was always a dice roll since no two people are alike. Without this finding, they would have been an extreme burden on the medical community and society as a whole.

Come to think of it, they identified the problem but no solution was mentioned. Treatment is going to be another matter, but best of luck in that regard.

So, yes, I've always said that we're no where near our abilities to measure everything. Anyone who says that is chock full of hubris just because they can measure a few things and understand the results.

What they're understanding are the results of some limited tests. That's all.

All the best,
Nonoise

What a dignified response.
Gone 3 days and here is this comment by noise in the Recent Activity.
Way to keep it classy! So if people disagree with your agenda they are mental defects? Should they be sent to camps? 

That's rich coming from someone I called out for making anti-Semitic remarks. Just look how he, ozzy and whitefish all group together. Fish in a barrel. Hey, that gives me an idea!

All the best,
Nonoise

 

@dbagstrick 

You can always contact Admin directly by

  • hovering your cursor over Forums
  • move it over to the right to Contact Us,
  • scroll down to How Do I Contact Support?
  • choose Support Ticket
  • compose your thoughts, and be nice but accurate 😄

They always respond this way.

All the best,
Nonoise

No biggie.   Let it ride. 

Agreed. I've always been of the mind to leave everything up for everyone to see and decide for themselves, instead of all of this censoring. It's like they're trying to create a false narrative for posterity.

All the best,
Nonoise

 

@dbagstrick 

You noticed that too? You'll find that some here seem to have an inside track with Admin and get posts they don't like deleted immediately whereas the offensive ones they started with remain up even after being tagged as offensive. 

My last two, which were responses to offensive remarks, were removed without email notification from Admin. Talk about a rigged election!

It's like dealing with the Harper Valley PTA on bath salts. They clutch their pearls so tightly, they have waffle patterns on their palms. And, to think, that a lot of the audio community reads these threads but don't dare post here because of them. If they could, this would be a much better place for audio enthusiasts. 

Maybe a DM to Tammy can sort things out. The last time this happened, someone else contacted her and she was unaware of just who was doing this.

All the best,
Nonoise