We Need A Separate Forum for Fuses


LOL, I'll bet I gotcha on that Title! ;)  BTW, I put this thread under "Tech Talk" category as it involves the system physically, not tangentially. 

More seriously, two question survey:

1. Do you think designer fuses are A) a Gift to audiophiles, or B) Snake Oil 

2. Have you ever tried them?  Yes or No

In the tradition of such questions on Agon, I'll weigh in as we go along... 
Feel free to discuss and rant all you wish, but I would like to see clear answers to the questions. :) 
douglas_schroeder
kosst_amojan
The only person I’ve plopped down in the listening chair and played music for who didn’t immediately recognize that they were hearing something of unique quality was a guy who was literally deaf in one ear. My hard of hearing mother thought the money and effort I was pouring into this was kinda crazy.... Until she heard it. It doesn’t take some wacky obsession for somebody to appreciate quality sound and want it for themselves. It doesn’t take hocus pocus fuses either. I’m looking at a thread here full of people swearing fuses - things not even in the actual signal path - make these marked differences. A few months ago I ripped out the big, bad madly shielded IC cables I used in my F5 obtained from a fellow building some very nice cables and replaced it with some solid 26g twisted copper connecting the RCA jacks to the amp boards. That’s a change far more radical than a freaking fuse. It made only the most barely perceptible difference. A $50 for a fuse, eh? To alter the sound of $5 worth of transistors? That’s not insane? I’d be better off better matching my source resistors! Hell of a lot more difference! Hell of a lot cheaper!

>>>>>So, you’re saying your hard of hearing mother says she likes the sound quality of your system? That’s sweet.

The reason you didn’t hear much difference between the radically different interconnects is because your system isn’t revealing enough. Oh, well, that’s the way it goes sometimes. 😛

Hello Douglas Schroeder, 
 Your polite reply to the smug, condescending and frankly silly comments from Kosst_Amorjan was mature, intelligent and exceptionally thoughtful.  Now on an audio forum we stoop to denigration of religious fundamentalists? Oy vey !
Charles 
geoffkait - how can a fuse in an AC circuit be directional? AC by it’s nature is non-directional. Please elaborate. Thx
nonoise
Everyone agrees that no fuse sounds the best, so just what is it that degrades the sound? Bueller? Bueller? The question that should be addressed is just how much of a change a fuse introduces, not that it's so small as to be insignificant. That undercuts the very argument of those who rely solely on measurements alone.

>>>>I’m pretty sure we already know the answer to that question. We know the answer by examining what it is that high end fuse manufacturers are doing to achieve superior results. Ready? OK, so here we go. As you said, purer metals for the conducting wire. Also better metal and pure metal for the end caps. Again, better conductor. OK, then you got your beeswax filled or liquid filled fuse or ceramic body fuses for vibration control. Make sense. The super thin wire is especially subject to vibration. You also got your black powder inside the fuse or Graphene on the fuse body for RFI/EMI shielding/absorption. Then you got your cryogenics which further improves performance. If you’re in the spirit a little bitty WA Quantum chip on the fuse is like the cherry on the top. Voila! Hey, how come DIYers don’t make their own fuses? Explain that if you can.



These special fuses cost more than the latest and greatest DAC chips!

what a joke