We Need A Separate Forum for Fuses


LOL, I'll bet I gotcha on that Title! ;)  BTW, I put this thread under "Tech Talk" category as it involves the system physically, not tangentially. 

More seriously, two question survey:

1. Do you think designer fuses are A) a Gift to audiophiles, or B) Snake Oil 

2. Have you ever tried them?  Yes or No

In the tradition of such questions on Agon, I'll weigh in as we go along... 
Feel free to discuss and rant all you wish, but I would like to see clear answers to the questions. :) 
douglas_schroeder

Showing 8 responses by shadorne

No need for a fuse forum. What is badly needed is a waste recycling cooperative for all the crappy unreliable finicky electronics that sound different with every fuse replacement. Either that or a technician needs to recognize the opportunity to provide services to fix all those terribly designed power supplies that ensure you only hear the fuse rather than the source recording.

Just the other day someone claimed to have spent $7000+ on fuses in order to try to fix the sound of their system. I am certain that for this kind of money a completely new and well designed power supply could be installed in the users problematic equipment.
Yes Geoff. If the fuse is audibly affecting the sound then you have a terribly designed power supply on your 100K or million $ amplifier. You make everything sound like rocket science when a power supply is such a simple part of the audio chain. The simple truth is that fuses are NOT supposed to be affecting the audio signal and they do not have an influence in properly designed gear.
Geoff

No strawman.

You claim a fuse affects the audio signal sound. I agree with you. It certainly will affect the audio sound if the component is very badly designed.

I claim aim that a well designed component will be unaffected audibly by a change of fuse from one suitable fuse to another suitable fuse. This is common sense.

That a fuse is in the AC power path is a meaningless strawman argument - we are not supposed to be listening to AC power but the audio on the CD etc. - audio that comes from DC power circuitry that runs after the AC power has been condition for said circuits. The path includes your fuse box in your home and the transformer in the street as well as countless KM of electrical wire from the power substation. For that matter the coal burned or natural gas burned or water flowing at the hydroelectric station or being boiled to power steam turbines at your power station is ALL in the path or chain of how AC power is reaching your home. Should you be worried about it? Well probably as much as you should worry about being abducted by aliens ;-)


Common sense says that if fuses make a big difference to electronic circuits then why isnt there a market for $50 or $100 fuses for toasters and all other electrical devices?

Show me the display at Home Depot or Best Buy or an automotive shop with recommended fuse upgrades for less burnt toast, smoother coffee, faster routers, less computer crashes, longer lasting hard drives, higher MPG efficiency, more torque and HP, lower heating bills and cleaner dishes?

And don’t tell me audio electronics is different or special because that is a strawman. Only an audiofool would believe that audio equipment is a special exception and that only



These special fuses cost more than the latest and greatest DAC chips!

what a joke
Isn’t the type of coal used to heat the water to make the steam that drives the electric turbines at the power station more significant than a fuse. 
If a mere fuse caused any audible change in sound in any of my equipment then you can be assured I would be rid of that useless POS boat anchor equipment in a flash. If a mere fuse makes an audible difference in your gear then you can be pretty much assured that anything else electrical you own or anything electrical your neighbours own will ALL affect your sound according to what is or isn’t plugged in. 


Mercedes have been winning F1 championships with Lewis Hamilton and after market fuses. Lewis only pits for fuel, tires or after market specialty fuses. They have Bayesian computer algorithms to determine which fuses to use and when. Some fuses work well in the wet and some are better at higher altitude and some will lower the aerodynamic drag of the vehicle, others are excellent for braking. Fuses are so important  they call it F1.