Watts! How many do we need?


Got a new amp. Accuphase P-4600. It’s great. I love it. 
150 watts into 8 ohms, 300 watts into 4 ohms and it has meters so I can see wattage. Have them set on freeze so I can see the highest wattage during the session.

My Harbeth speakers are not very efficient. Around 86db. Their impedance is an even 6 ohms dipping no lower than 5.8 ohms. 

Playing HiRes dynamic classical recordings  ( Tchaikovsky , Mahler) at room filling volumes I have yet to exceed 1watt.. 

Amps today offer a lot of watts some going to 600 even 1200 watts. Even if you have inefficient speakers with an impedance that dips down to 2 ohms do we need all this wattage or should we be focusing on current instead? 

jfrmusic

@rshank64 In posts made, I attempt to only write and share of experiences had.

As this report made is the description being offered of a very very recent experience had, the content has a relevance to the Topic of this thread.   

I am not reporting on a Audio Retailers opinion.

The Speakers were placed in a room with Dimensions approx' 24' (7.5mtr) x 17' (5mtr) approx' 6' (1.8mtr) from the rear wall), 2' (600mm) fom the side wall, with a spacing between the Speakers of 12' (3.6mtr).

The first row of seating was 10' (3mtr) extending back in two more rows to approx' 15' (4.5mtr)

Between a group of eight in attendance, of which none were a nearfield listener, and one attendee is a active Audio Retailer, another attendee a retired Audio Retailer, there was only talk of the very positive impression that was being made by the 3 Watt Output Amp' within the whole group. The Group were not familiar with such a sound that was present, Voluminous Soundstage, with noticeable/notable separation, accompanied with detail retrieval that was hard to fathom, how it was able to manifest as an end sound. The designer made it known where some of the electronics in use were not conventional, and are a contributing factor.  

Five Sources were used, both Digital and Analogue, using Silver Interconnect Wires and Silver Wire Speaker Cables.

Immediately after the 3 Watt Ouput Amp's demo, a 30 Watt Output 300b Power Amp was put into service.

There was zero audible evidence this Amp' was doing a Better Job of Driving the Speakers and Coupling to the Room, even though the 3 Watt Amp' was using much of the VC to attain similar dB levels. There was plenty of evidence to show how the two designs are separated through an end sound produced 

As good as the 300b is as a design, where the circuit is TDP designed Transformers and is using interstage Tranxs, as well as a very careful selection of resistors that have been highly thought off over the years.

The assessment (not hearsay) for the the new concept design Prototype 3 Watt Output Amp' has been an indelible experience leaving a large impression for an attraction to it. The Amp' is very much worthy of being commented on, especially in a Thread of this Topic.   

@pindac
Thanks for the detailed description  of your experience and surroundings where this demo took place.
That is indeed a very impressive performance from a 3W valve amp.  It is very encourging to know that there are new valve designs in development which may change the way we experience audio.
Hope this product will be made  available to all to evaluate, purchase and enjoy in the near future!

@larryi 

If watts tell half the story, which advertised spec of the amplifier is a better indicator? I understand amp x volts = watts. However, based on my basic search, amplifier specs don't advertise/disclose this info.I need one more variable.

However, based on my basic search, amplifier specs don't advertise/disclose this info.I need one more variable.

@tee_dee The variable that tells the most about how an amplifier will sound is distortion vs frequency, which is a chart with a curve on it. Ideally, the curve is really a straight line across the audio band. If it rises with frequency, this can cause the amp to sound harsh and bright. The lower the frequency this happens, the more harsh and the more bright. The brightness is not a frequency response error, its caused by higher ordered harmonics being audible. The ear interprets such harmonics as 'bright' and also 'harsh'.

But you are right, many manufacturers do not publish this particular measurement! I'm of the opinion they really don't want the spec sheet actually telling you how the amp sounds.