Watts! How many do we need?


Got a new amp. Accuphase P-4600. It’s great. I love it. 
150 watts into 8 ohms, 300 watts into 4 ohms and it has meters so I can see wattage. Have them set on freeze so I can see the highest wattage during the session.

My Harbeth speakers are not very efficient. Around 86db. Their impedance is an even 6 ohms dipping no lower than 5.8 ohms. 

Playing HiRes dynamic classical recordings  ( Tchaikovsky , Mahler) at room filling volumes I have yet to exceed 1watt.. 

Amps today offer a lot of watts some going to 600 even 1200 watts. Even if you have inefficient speakers with an impedance that dips down to 2 ohms do we need all this wattage or should we be focusing on current instead? 

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Showing 5 responses by macg19

That's a very nice amp for those speakers, congrats. Fellow Harbeth owner - I'm seeing/hearing similar results. I think the "low" sensitivity of Harbeth's isn't that relevant with well-matched, high-current SS power which is exactly what you have based on Paul's video (able to double power from 8 to 4 ohms).  

Even if our meters are not perfectly calibrated, there is no doubt in my mind that they are a very good indication that the amp is barely breathing, and having virtually unlimited headroom is a really good thing. Enjoy it! 

Also consider clipping for tubes and SS is very different. (I'm running SS now but owned 3 tube amps and use a tube DAC now so I'm not trying to pick a side here)

Part of the reason we like tubes, is the distortion, which increases as they get overdriven, and is obviously part of the design/intent in tube guitar amps. 

It's Jazz Sunday in our house today, and something else I thought of as I play both analogue and digital albums, is the wide variation of recording levels. It's nice to have (virtually) unlimited reserves of clean power for those lower level recordings.

Lastly, I don't understand this.

with far fewer headaches and travails than an amateur attempting to joust with walls of drivers and 600 wpc

You don't need walls of drivers and the only jousting with 600wpc is financial/spouse approval.

@dogearedaudio 

My point was that I have seen systems so expensive, so complicated and striving for so much power and scale that they become unmanageable for the owner.  They're often difficult to listen to as well.

Point taken. But in this context we are talking about modern power amps/integrated amps that put out high-current, 300 wpc plus into a pair of small to medium size speakers. And in the case of Harbeth's, were designed/voiced for SS. 

Conversely, I'm hoping to put together a much lower powered tube system again when circumstances allow it, but maybe with some vintage Tannoy's or similar. (I owned a 35wpc Raven Audio Osprey that was oh so sweet sounding - I miss it)

No question both high-power and low-power strategies can sound fantastic when the synergy is right.