Was the Snell Secret a Wide Baffle?


I often regret not buying old Snell A/III when I had the money and the space.

One of my all time favorite speakers. By now I'd have certainly had to throw it away. I'd not have the space, and those woofers with extra mass would long ago have pulled out of their frames.

One thing you don't realize unless you go looking for the pics, or owned one, was that the tweeter and midrange of these  speakers were, in my mind, very wide baffle designs. Yes, curved, but very wide.

Another Speaker I like, which I believe is based on a Snell design, is the Audio note AN/J, also has a relatively wide baffle, as do the Devore Orangutan. Of course, among my all time favorite speakers is the Sonus Faber Stradivari, a speaker I know can sound excellent even in acoustically challenged rooms.

What do you all think, have you heard the wide baffle magic?
erik_squires

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Yes!  Consider the Harbeth 40.2, Spendor Classic 100, Graham 5/8.

If you're interested in speaker design, Graham are now coming out with a new version of the 5/5 which is quite funky.

https://www.stereophile.com/content/graham-audio-launches-ls-55-montreal

And Devore’s inspiration for the "O" series came directly from the Audio Note N...


I would conjecture that the same feature is a good part of the reason for the recent success of the Wharfedale Lintons...

Here’s a quote from Peter Comeau, the guy who designed the recent Lintons.

"Th[e] larger ported box, with its subsequent increased baffle size, helps solve a major problem in modern speakers, namely, the baffle step.

I grew up with large speakers with wide baffles, but, as speakers reduced in size over the years I noticed that something was missing from the sound and, when I stuck my head firmly into speaker design, I began to understand the acoustic problems caused by the baffle step.

Put simply, as the baffle size decreases, the point at which the acoustic radiation changes from hemispherical to spherical goes up in frequency. It also becomes sharper and narrower in bandwidth as the sides of the cabinet, and the walls and floor of the room, are further removed from the equation. So, this 6dB step in the power response becomes acoustically more obvious.

I believe that a thin speaker always sounds thinner throughout the midrange when directly compared to a speaker with more generous baffle width. Of course, as designers of modern, slim speakers, we compromise by adjusting for the baffle step in the crossover, but in doing so, we also compromise sensitivity. What starts out as a 90dB at 1W drive-unit often ends up as an 85dB system once we have adjusted for the power loss due to the baffle step."


Let's not forget the Sonus Faber Stradivari and Cremona Elipsa.


@prof 

Both those speaker lines seem to produce a richer/fuller-than-usual sonic presentation, where instruments have more size and sense of body.

You put into better words exactly the impression that I was trying to name when I was listening to the Classic 100's.  For my own personal shorthand I came up with "music launch", in that somehow just more of the music seemed to be arriving at the listener. But I prefer your formulation.