Was I Expecting Too Much


Hi everyone.  I'm looking for a heading check with a situation I encountered yesterday.  

Background:

I'm planning to upgrade my turntable later this year - Q3 is my target.  After my research, I've narrowed down to AMG and Brinkmann.  I was able to audition an AMG Viella yesterday, and was looking to audition a Bardo or Taurus for comparison.  I know my thought of trying to fit in a Brinkmann demo was last-minute, and some dealers are particular when it comes to appointments and allowing them time to setup their demo.  

The Situation:

So I called the local Brinkmann dealer and inquired to see if a bardo or taurus happened to be setup.  The salesman I spoke with said they had both, and he was going to check if a demo was possible.  After a few minutes, I get a phone call back from the owner who seemed rather dismissive of my request.  I explained that I'm currently doing my research and looking to hear some demos to help down-select, and that my purchase would be a few months from now.  He asked for my budget which I found strange as I already stated what I was interested in demoing.  Then the conversation turned to what gear I already own, which I understand sort-of.  Then the owner basically said it doesn't make sense for me to demo anything now and to call back when I'm ready to purchase.  

How am I going to know what I want to purchase without demoing the options?

Was I expecting too much by asking to hear equipment that I'm interested in?  My opinion is a sale isn't guaranteed and an audio dealer, just like any other dealer, needs to invest some reasonable amount of time to capture a sale.  You don't capture all the sales, but I didn't think I was being unreasonable in my request and certainly was not trying to waste anyone's time.  I was pretty transparent with where I'm at and I guess he was reciprocating my transparency by telling me to go away.  I felt "less-than" by this experience.  As if I wasn't worth investing any time into.

Thoughts?

 

cbl117

Showing 4 responses by waytoomuchstuff

As a former dealer:

We have to understand that the initial conversation between POTENTIAL customers and POTENTIAL dealers is an "interview" process that involves two parties, analzing the prospects of a positive outcome for each Both have the option to proceed or terminate the relationship based on the information they are given. The dealer may get indicators that the prospects for success are very low (say, 20%) based on past experiences, and decide to tactfully withdraw at that point.

The key word here is "tactfully" withdraw. In my view, "preserving the relationship" was always the top priority, unless of course, I felt the person was a low integrity individual. I don’t know what kind of day/week/year/life the dealer was having. It would have good to get to know you face-to-face to discuss the turntable. I’m pretty sure your lifetime Hi-fi ambitions are not going to stop with your current turntable purchase.

By the way, I was in the market for a luxury sports sedan a few years ago. I asked the salesman: "If I pick the sports suspension option, how much lower does the vehicle sit?" To which the salesman replied: "I need to make sure you’re serious about the car before I spend the time doing all this research." I ended up purchasing the car (with sports suspension) from a salesman who was a performance driving instructor who, during the test drive, made sure I hit the apex at speed on the exit ramps. Relationships matter.

The first MINUTE of the interview process between potential customer and dealer is the most important.  It is during this period were it will be determined IF there is a valid reason for either party to continue pursuing their obnjectives.

Key words from a customer such as "I'm shopping for a ...." is a bad place to begin a conversation.  The term "shopping for" can have many connotations including: "I'm going to buy where I'm going to get the best deal".  Dealers have seen this movie before, so some quick math (I'm going to offer my time and resources and my prospect of closing this sale are on the order of 20%) and may prefer to withdraw.  "Ready to buy" puts his prospect at 60%+.  Simple math.  Business 101.

@mdalton

My point is that during the "interview process" there are certain key words that throw up a red flag and indicate that the potential customer is a "shopper" and not a good prospect. How this is framed and communicated matters. The dealer may be cautious and protective of time and assets, perhaps (based on past experiences). But, not crazy.

@mdalton 

All good points.  And as @markimiller suggests, IF this is the dealer in question, he might be an old burnt out purveyor of audio hardware that's ready to trade in his surplus gear for a golf cart.

My intent is not to win (or, lose) an argument here but, rather, inject a viewpoint based on decades of experience for consideration.  I mentioned in an earlier post that it is unfortunate that the dealer missed an opportunity for a face-to-face with this (potential) customer.  It could have paid off for both of them?

My approach to potential customers was one where neither party was over-leveraged, or under-leveraged.  This seemed to work out well for me, and my customers.  Your example of a job interview does fit into the dynamic.  The dealer's career objectives (both short term and long term) does depend on the outcome(s).  The dealer's career is enhanced (or, diminished) by what is about to happen so, yes, he does have a vested interest in who is is "interviewing".  In this regard, whether we're aware of it our not, everyone we do business with (where there is a lot at stake) is going thru a mental checklist to see if they really want to do business with us.  Our portfolio included providing technology, home theater, distributed audio, etc. and using your contractor example, we were given the advice that if the customer/client is badmouthing the other trades on the job, it's probably best to bow out of the project.  They aren't going to like you, either.  And we may be unintentionally communicating the wrong messages to the dealer, contractor, etc. and disqualify ourselves before we even get started.  Probably the best outcome, for all concerned.

In my career, I had to look under every rock to discover business opportunities and was never in a position to pick and choose only elite customers/clients.  But I'll say, looking back, after 70+ hour average work weeks, I should have had a better filter on whom I did business with.  I missed a lot of life and living.  But, I did offer an extraordinary level of service.  Wonder if that will be included in my o'bit?