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And talking about cons ...

Liberal special interests ...

"The 1119-page bill is Christmas in March for liberal special interests. It imposes racial and gender pay equity provisions, diversity on corporate boards, increased use of minority-owned banks by federal offices, and a grab-bag of other diversity-themed requirements. It increases the collective bargaining power for unions and cancels all the debt owed by the U.S. Postal Service to the U.S. Treasury. For the global warming crowd, there are increased fuel emission standards and required carbon offsets for airlines, plus tax credits for alternative energy programs. For the kids, there is a provision for student loan payment deferment, and for the education bureaucrats who overcharge them a $9.5 billion giveaway to colleges and universities. It gives $100 million to juvenile justice programs, and suspends various aspects of enforcement of immigration laws.

Perhaps the most troubling sections of the bill are under the rubric ‘‘American Coronavirus/COVID–19 Election Safety and Security” or ‘‘ACCESS” Act. This section would impose requirements on states for early voting, voting by mail, required mailing of absentee ballots to everyone, ballot harvesting (i.e., having third parties deliver absentee ballots), online voter registration, same-day registration and other practices which undermine confidence in the integrity of the ballot. In these days of increasing threats to election security, we should be moving rapidly back to in-person paper ballots, but this bill would be a radical step in the wrong direction.

It is hard quickly to root out whatever other aspects of this bill bear no relationship to COVID-19, but to its backers, that is the point. We can’t really know what’s in it until they pass it, to paraphrase Speaker Pelosi on another such memorable occasion.

The politics of the Democratic proposal are not hard to figure. Democrats are concerned that the Coronavirus crisis could be a “9/11 moment” for President Trump, that people might put aside partisanship for a moment to rally around a leader trying his best to help the country cope."


  • "No greater love hath Trump than to lay down your life for his reelection."

Don’t worry, all will be okay. The virus will be squashed just as soon as the airlines become subject to carbon offsets, and when corporate boards are diversified.

Fascism, anyone? 

Frank
Two of the biggest cons to ever grace the Oval Office were the sex addict/rapist from Arkansas and the smooth-talking, beautifully smiling, community organizer from Jakarta.  
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barts ...

Thanks for posting that excellent video. I've shared it with family and friends.

Frank
onhwy61  >>>

 
  • Oregonpapa, please explain two things. How is Donald Trump any less a sex addict/rapist than Bill Clinton? How did Barack Obama get elected if he did not meet the Constitutional citizenship requirements?

Thanks for the questions. I'll take a stab at answering them just as soon as you tell the group how all of the Pelosi pork additions to the Coronavirus bill will curb the growth of the virus and save the lives of those affected.

Frank
nonoise ... 

  •   i'm not really surprised that Frank is blasting away at those most hurt by this and not a peep about the slush fund for the filthy rich. He keeps looking down at what he thinks is the problem and not up at the well fed vultures that run this economy, always looking for a way to further enrich themselves at the expense of the less fortunate.
  • But at least he's staying in character. 👍


My point was about the pork added to the bill that has nothing to do with curing the sick, or saving the dying. Subsidies for NPR and the Kennedy Center? Carbon offsets and diversity on corporate boards? Maybe you can tell us how they apply to the coronavirus.

Frank
onhwy61

  • Oregonpapa, I don’t understand why you cannot defend your earlier statements. To be completely honest, I am disappointed.
1. We are all sex addicts to a certain extent. It’s called preservation of the species. When it comes to The Orange Man ... there is something called redemption. I don’t think that applies to the Rapist From Arkansas.

2. The smooth-talking, beautifully smiling, community organizer from Jakarta had one parent from Kenya and one from the United States. Therefore, he was a U.S. citizen, born of a U.S. citizen.

Now that I’ve answered your question, and relieved your disappointment, how about answering my question ... How will all of the Pelosi pork additions to the Coronavirus bill curb the growth of the virus and save the lives of those affected?

Frank
jafreeman ...

  • Frank, will you please cite your reference for this cut-and-paste post? I doubt any of this would be included in a package mainly authored in the GOP-controlled Senate that passed by a vote of 96-0. It seems you have fallen victim to right-wing click bait. So, please--list your reference, including author, if there is one, publication and internet address.

Here you go, Joe ...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/03/23/nancy-pelosi-has-packed-coronavirus-stimulus-liberal-wish-list-column/2903577001/
ghasley ...

 
  • Speaker Pelosi is in the House, no authorship of the bill. It came out of the Senate.What is "redemption" and how does that apply to anyone in the conversation?

Yes, Pelosi is the Speaker of the House (Congress). These pork-barrel items were added by Pelosi, then sent to the Senate for approval. Actually, it is over 1100 pages long, so past experience would tell us that it was already prepared by staff members to be presented upon Pelosi's return from vacation. 

Redemption is attained by asking for forgiveness by The Great Redeemer. Of course, there is no way to know another man's heart, but as far as we know it, The Orange Man has been walking on the straight and narrow. No Cupie Doll ... no cigar. :-)

Frank