Use a gDVD/CD player as transport with a good DAC?


Someone that I really respect told me that the cheapest way to get a high-end audio player is to buy a DVD/CD player - good one - say Panasonic/Technics for $ 500. This way you get the latest possible in transport technology. Use the digital out connection on the DVD/CD plyer and feed it into a DAC such as Bel Canto, Theta, Electrocompaniet etc. I am very intrigued. Any thoughts?? Has anyone tried this. Which components did you try and how is it working?? Thanks in advance.
dcaudio

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Jcaudio,

Although I may agree with you that the transport does make a significant difference, your shootout in which you state "In fact a combination of a $2950 transport with a $1500 DAC sounds better than a $1000 transport with a $5000 DAC" is not a robust or valid enough test to prove anything as you are using two different DACs and two different transports. There is no constant that provides for a basis of comparison here, which means you are comparing apples and oranges. Although you may still be right, you cannot state that your shootout proves anything because there are too many variables(i.e. difference in performance between the two transports and DACs, the compatibility differences between each transport and DAC, the compatibility of all the units with whatever digital cable your're using, etc.). Given all those variables I could easily devise a shootout that would show just the opposite and state that DACs make a bigger difference than transports.

With regard to Dcaudio's initial question, although I currently use a transport/DAC combo if I were doing it again I'd probably go a different route and get a decent mid-level player(like a Sony NS500) and have it heavily modified by someone like Ric Schultz(www.tweakaudio.com--see this site for more thoughts on this issue), Dan Wright, Stan Warren, etc. This way you avoid the whole jitter/interaction issue and you also don't have to buy and insert another cable into your system, and it will probably end up costing the same or even less than buying a separate transport and DAC. Of course you lose the flexibility of being able to upgrade the transport or DAC, but with the evolving new formats and universal players on the way you'll probably want to completely overhaul your source within the next couple years anyway. Best of luck.

Tim
That still doesn't address the fundamental problem with the way in which you are conducting the experiment. Just because you have found that with this particular combination of equipment you get the results you state does not mean you can extrapolate those results across all brands, models, and price ranges. Again, I'm not saying your contention that transports have more impact on sound than DACs is necessarily wrong(I tend to think they're both important), but you can't say it is always the case based on one example, and anyone who knows about statistical research methods will tell you the same thing. Your demo simply is not robust(in the statistical sense of the word) enough to support any broad or valid conclusions about whether transports or DACs have more of an impact on sound. As a counter argument, I could easily devise a demo showing DACs have more of an impact on sound than transports, but I still couldn't and wouldn't say that DACs are more important than transports--there are simply too many variables here to constitute proof one way or the other.

I think the only thing we can say with any confidence is that both DAC and transport(and the digital cable) are important to getting good sound, and as with audio in general the chain is only as strong as the weakest link.

Tim