USB Reclocker


I would appreciate any feedback/experience/recommendations on adding a USB reclocker between a server and DAC? In my case a Roon nucleus+ server and a Chord DAVE DAC. I was looking at the Innuos Phoenix USB Reclocker.

i have a Ferrum LPS for the Nucleus+ and the DAVE power supply has been been updated with 3 independent Farad PSs.

Should a CHORD M-Scaler be a consideration?

 

 

 

 

singhm1

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@singhm1 I have the DAVE DAC with the Farad Power supplies and I am very happy with the M-scaler upgrade.  It takes excellent internet service to work right.  You can't upscale a poor digital presentation.

Adding a reclocker is on my list of things to consider.  Along with a high end digital switch.

I have the Innuos Zenith MK3 streamer.  Are you streaming directly from your Roon Nucleus?  I didn't think that was an option.  I have the Core running on an Intel Nuc in ROCK mode.  

I'd be very interested in your impressions of the Innuos reclocker.

Jerry

Ignore ASR, or use them as a contrarian indicator. One of their videos rated Dave as inferior to a $150 chinese DAC based on their measurements. they just like to cause discussion generating clicks.

TCP/IP is a generic term for all the protocols on the internet. there are 2 main ones, streaming and packet delivery. Many get confused and apply packet delivery thinking to streaming. that is how they determine that you’re fine with a rusty clothes line and 2 tin cups.

Key is to get the streaming to the DAC with the least dropped bits and all arriving at the right time. Thus the highest quality equipment in the streaming path and the reclocker.

Jerry

@singhm1 I did buy the Farad for the M scaler as well.  I have to admit I was doing wholesale upgrades to many components and didn't go a good job of keeping track which one was most useful.  I do have a story to tell on the m-scaler.  for a while I was streaming wirelessly and I put the M-scaler in place and it sounded worse rather than better.  I sat it aside.  Soon I ran a temporary wire across the floor to see how it sounded while I was trying to figure out how to get a physical wire routed to the streamer.  I was shocked at the difference (Improvement).  At that time I put the M-scaler back in service and got the improvement that I had been expecting.  I went back and forth many times over several days to make sure I wasn't imagining it (which is my normal practice).  So bottom line is, the M-scaler will just make a bad digital signal worse.  Don't try to uscale a signal with a lot of dropped bits.  

your first sentence is perfect, "... a high quality switch and a reclocker should have a pretty good outcome..."   Should being the operative word.  

I have an audiophile switch now and I loaned to a friend and put the D-link switch back in and don't hear much difference.  Still doing research on that and that is why I'm following closely another active thread on streaming that has a lot of switch discussion in it.

Jerry

 

@ghdprentice  why do you think this is so?  Is your expesive streamer doing onboard reclocking?  Anything else?

I haver read lately among innuos fans that some prefer the Zenith Mk3+Phenix USB reclocker+phoenixNET switch over the statement making me wonder if the statement has some of these features onboard....not sure what to think.

Jerry