Tpsonic
You got me on this one.All I know is that in 15 years of going to different audio stores and shows the best sounding systems were always wired with MIT cable. Though I would like to try some other brand's and I have in the past.It always seems like MIT sound the best to my ears..No matter what system I had!! |
Just don't pair them with Threshold or wide-bandwith designs,as they can cause these amplifiers to go into oscillation (Noted on the Threshold website).
When you think about controlling a driver,it is about coupling the amp and driver.This is less likely with a filter in-line,as the whole audio signal is passed through it.
Would this not also effect the amount of negative feedback required to keep the amp stable.The back EMF from the driver is at different phase angles,due to the crossover and other items inserted between the amp/spkr combination.
I can understand why these cables are well promoted by dealers,as they can receive up to a 70 point margin. |
I think the consensus is that it's great stuff. The Euro-Dollar exchange rate is not helpful to making sure that more people hear how wonderful these speakers are. |
I am not speaking of 0/180 degrees,as a subwwoofer filter/crossover.I have heard MIT and the filtering/Band Pass filters do effect the frequency spectrum/sound.Changing out to a piece of wire which does not try to do such sophisticated spectrum/frequency shaping may or may not be an eye opener.
The passive filtering may give a smoother top-end or fuller midrange/midbass,but I can't see how its' attack/sustain/decay characteristics would be better than a straight wire configuration,as a passive component in-line will contribute its' own signature.If the source component,pre or power amplification can't provide what is needed,then fixing it with a filtering network after-the-fact is much like a bandaid.You would need to know what you are trying to correct and not issue a "blanket" filter.As the filter for one system would not be applicable to another.
I don't know that I can explain this differently.It is something that must be experienced.Every system has its' own contribution to the perceived sound.Whether that is to the listeners' preference is another issue and its' adherence to the source yet another.
My two-cents:try it or ignore it. |
Tpsonic,
When I think of "out of phase "like your saying,The imaging should be not focused and it sounds really goofy.I never got this from MiT nor any system that's wired by MIT.I'm Not following you on you statement.. |
Capacitors and inductors effect phase,as any electrical course will teach the student.Thus many of the equations have to do with phase angles/relationships. |
Tpsonic,
("You might be amazed at what getting rid of passive components in the signal path can do.Akin to preamps and amplifiers.These components all contribute something.Correcting phase relationships after-the-fact doesn't make sense to me").
I thought that the network boxes act as filters.I didnt think they did any thing to phase.. |
Spaz, another cable you might give a shot is Harmonic Tech magic link II - they are more dynamic than MIT and Kimber, but retain the holography and imaging you like - might be what your looking for. I find they work best as a link between preamp and amp in my system. |
You might be amazed at what getting rid of passive components in the signal path can do.Akin to preamps and amplifiers.These components all contribute something.Correcting phase relationships after-the-fact doesn't make sense to me.
If the speaker was designed around these type of cables,then that is a different story. |
I love the transparency the MIT's give me and I don't want to give that up!I'm big on soundstaging and imaging so I'm looking to improve that area of the sound.Also I would like to thicking up the bass somewhat.I know theres a alot of other things to do change to make this possible but at the current time I want to change interconnects..Thanks |
I have a lot of experience with MIT, including yours. The 330 SG are special cables but definitely are not the last word in resolution. I changed from years of using MIT including older reference series to Kimber Select. On my system Kimbers, especially the 1021 hybrids deliver more clarity allowing me to hear further into the recording but in a more tonally relaxed way. You get that same transparency with the higher model MIT's but at a much higher price point and not the smooth relaxed tone. Thats not to say the Kimbers are soft in any way, just smooth and relaxed, especially on the top end. I have tried several IC's in the 1K price range and the Kimbers do it best for me. The 1016 is a great cable also, especially if have any leanness anywhere in the chain. Cables are a maddening personal choice, YMMV. |
Have heard a similar system with MIT,You might look at Silent Source Copper Reference or Purist. |
It would be helpfull to let Audiogoners know what it is you are trying to change..Budget ? New sound..Brighter? Warmer? More Bass? Air etc??? Just need to know the direction you need to go...This makes it easier to know which to suggest.. |
