Thanks all for the responses. I am presently auditioning an ARC SD135 amp and an ARC LS17 pre with my gear and here is what I have found so far. I did a mix and match with it all starting with the LS17 and my Classe CA100. What a difference. The music really came out of the MLs with clarity and definition. Then I went back to my gear with the Classee CA100 and CP35 pre to really see the difference. The music was muffled and music passages seem to just blend all together. To think we have been listening to this for years! Next I did my pre with the SD135 and the music was still muffled and not detailed, so determined my pre has got to go! I hooked the SD135 with the LS17 and maybe it was my anticipation and "expectations" with what i was imagining I would be hearing out of my MLs but it was a let down to say the least. We have a few CDs that we use to audition gear and in one song the words coming from the speakers were making my wifes teeth hurt. It seemed to have either really cleared up the song but it was too much "ssssss" in the words and in some of the cymbals. The clarity just didn't seem as good as with the Classe amp. But i think the biggest downfall, and it probably is personal, is the sound of the cooling fan of the amp. Though the literature says it is a quiet fan, it was like sitting next to my refer. In those nice quiet passages of certain songs, the fan overtook the room. I don't have a large music room so it could be sitting that close really is a disadvantage but after an afternoon and eve of it, we could not take it. I also expected a lil more "umph" from it but it really didn't have that until we really turned up the volume, which is very little of our listening. So the adventure continues for an amp but I really think the LS17 is a really nice piece of gear. It could be that I just might keep the pre with my original amp, I have read that mixing an SS amp with a tube pre really brings out the music, I can say it is but with the MLs, I am thinking that there is an amp out there that will just take us to music bliss with this new LS17. Would like to see what you all think of this all. thanks!! Happy Listening.