Turntable isolation platform Recommendations?


I currently have a Critical Mass isolation platform on loan. Does anyone have any other suggestions I might look at?  Possibly considering the HRS 

any feedback would be greatly appreciated..

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Vibration, picking up vibration. I real like the comment about discos using. Technics sl 1200s and have hundreds of people on the dance floor and Not worrying about vibration. I guess of if your home is dead silent, you really worried about vibration. YOU must have super hearing....

I do. Also super logic. Like I deduce people jumping up and down screaming and shouting zonked half out of their minds on alcohol and who knows what all else are probably not all that likely to be listening intently, or capable of it even if they wanted- which they don’t.   

Pretty sure that is why they call it a club, and not a meeting of the audiophile society.
There are a lot of principles in common. Skyscrapers for example use almost the same damping system as is used for speakers. In both cases the idea is a mass damps resonant behavior. Springs don't damp at all but they do isolate allowing vibrations to be damped or dissipated within the component itself. This can result in some resonant behavior that colors the sound. Townshend adds a very specific small amount of damping to greatly reduce this resonant coloring of tone.  

Same thing happens even within the turntable. Part of the problem is isolation to prevent environmental vibrations from getting into the turntable. Another part is preventing vibrations generated within the turntable itself from getting into the environment, because this sets up ringing which smears and colors sounds even more. A third aspect is to dissipate vibrations generated within the component, essentially converting them into heat energy. All three need to be done, and as if that isn't hard enough they need to be done equally with frequencies across the audio band. Or the sound becomes colored. 

The crazy part is all these things don't just happen in turntables. They happen in everything. Even in speaker cables, vibration control is a factor.  
I'm sure glad that Townshend vibration isolation products are OK 'cause I just bought their whole product line for my entire system. 

No stone left unturned. Or unsprung I should say. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cI6KhH-x7w
And a special thanks to Millercarbon on the record clamp. I did end up machining my own record clamp. With washer and threaded spindle.

Latest improvement, TA-102 tape. The thick one. Cut one piece round with a hole in it to slide over the spindle and then trim to fit your washer. This goes on top so the record rests against this vibration absorbing tape. Depending on your washer you might want to put tape on the bottom as well. Or a very thin layer of Blue-Tack. Then use one or two of the narrow pre-cut strips to go around the bottom edge of the clamp. So both edges the record contacts fO.q tape.    

If you use a reflex clamp this is all you need to do. If yours screws down like mine then use a piece of thin plastic sheet between the tape and the record to reduce friction and avoid marking the label. Simple, cheap, highly effective.  

Run a strip or two along the under side of the tone arm tube. Trim a piece to fit between cartridge and head shell. Put some more on the counter weight, base, motor, etc. One piece at a time to evaluate. Don't be like the guy who saw me say this and then thinking a little good a lot better wrapped his whole arm in it!   



That table is close to 30lbs. I would try Pods first. That is an expensive table but those cone footers, you could actually put one Pod under each one. It will probably be better however to bypass the whole thing and put the Pods directly under the turntable base. Probably the best will be if you can remove the CA feet and replace them with Pods. Probably won't want to mess with that though I am betting. Even though it probably will be the best or certainly the most cost-effective solution. 

I would call John Hannant at Townshend. He helped me with mine. Vibration control with turntables almost always comes down to the details of each table and situation. John has a lot of experience with that, which is probably how he was able to help me so much.
Depending on the details of your situation Townshend Pods, or Platform.

If the turntable is fairly massive (like 20lbs or more) sometimes Pods can be used directly under the table. This is the best relatively inexpensive solution. (Nobsound springs are the budget answer.) 

If the table is light, or if it uses an outboard motor like mine then you would put it on a shelf or sand box with Pods under that. 

Townshend Platform, which basically is Pods attached to a constrained layer damped platform. Costs more than Pods but the performance is a little better too owing to the constrained layer damped platform. 

My table is on a BDR Source Shelf and very massive so I use Pods under the Shelf. You can do this with a butcher block shelf or sand box or whatever. All of these options are a more performance for a lot less money than alternatives. The main question is which one will work best in your situation.