Tube Friendly High End "Big" speakers


I've been upgrading my system from good to great. I addressed the analog front end first and now have something respectable (Brinkmann Oasis w/ Graham Phantom II Supreme, Lyra Delos, SimAudio Moon 310LP, and Acrolink 8N Reference Phono Cable.

The system is being driven by a PrimaLuna Premium Dialogue Integrated and the speakers are Opera Seconda's in a smallish dedicated listening room. I'm moving into a much larger house, but will no longer have a dedicated listening room.

The room is 21.5' x 14.5' with lots of big windows and a high v-shaped vaulted ceiling which I'll treat with GIK acoustic panels. Not looking on advice on the room. It is what it is. Just giving a bit of info since I suspect it will be on the lively side. Here's a video. The room starts around the 2:10 mark: http://youtu.be/wrDpTsBDD_M

I'm looking to upgrade the Opera's. I really want a "big" speaker, something that will move some air and pressurize a room like this. My preference is for something tube friendly and I'll likely need to use my PrimaLuna for at least a few months. Not really interested in horns though.

I'm looking for a very 3D soundstage that's velvety smooth. Detail is great, but definitely nothing fatiguing as I tend to listen at higher volumes for extended periods. While I do listen to a lot of Classic Rock and Jazz, I also listen to a lot of more modern music. I want something that isn't going to make this stuff sound terrible.

I'm planning to buy used, so anything that retails up to $55-60K might be doable. TAD and Focal are on my radar right now, but it's difficult to read between the lines from reviewers to understand what will work.

Which speakers should I be considering?
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Just went through the same process and yes, high efficiency speakers solve a lot of problems, including amplifier choices. The differences in sound pressure level with the same power is remarkable and makes the amp selection less restrictive.

You have had, on this thread, some pretty knowledgable posters. I followed these helpful posters and ended up with Zu Definition 4s powered by vintage McIntosh MC 60 tube mono blocks. After selecting the right tubes I'm very satisfied. However I'd like to share something I've learned from a very knowledgeable audio expert, Jim Smith.
You can enter his name in the forum and get an idea of his take on things. His book, Get Better Sound, is a must read for someone in your position.

First of all the Zu Def 4 is by itself very dynamic. With the 60 watts Macs on the full range drivers and the 400 watt/12" down firing subs, to say they rock would be accurate. There is a thread on this site, "Do I really need a subwoofer" that I found informative.

Now back to Jim Smith. He explained that for overall room balance and control of room nodes, having independent subs, even with these speakers, carries a vast benefit. Along these lines, you might want to consider some high quality subs regardless of the speaker brand. This whole integration problem just isn't the problem some make it out to be. Zu makes great subs to augment their speakers. You can make the room much more musical with subs, it just takes good placement and fiddling with the crossover point to get it right.

Now if you really want to get it right, whatever you purchase, call Jim to set up a Room Play session. He's got the sub thing down. He's got everything down all the way to the phase in the electricity coming into your system. I know this sounds like an ad for Jim, rest assured it's just a recommendation to help get you to where you want to go.
Charles,
BTW your posts on this forum are very well thought out and informative.
Jim is in N Atlanta. But boy does he travel and he really gives it his all when setting up a room. He's a little OCD which in his line of work is a pretty good thing.
He asks for photos to see if the room is doable-some aren't. He's very pleasant company as well.
Tom,