True or False?


The following is a common sentiment from some who claim to be audiophiles.

If you hear something but can’t measure it, you only think you heard a difference.

 

This notion is also common among people who claim to possess an accomplished understanding of audio, especially when achieving a high level of performance for a minimal investment.

So who’s right? On the one hand we have Objectivists who claim if you can’t measure it, you can’t possibly hear it or if you do, its expectation bias and self delusion. Are these people correct? Do they get as good as a sound, or better for far less money by ignoring cables, power cords, mechanical isolation, basically any accessory that many have found to dramatically improve performance despite a lack measurements? Do those who dismiss expensive digital to analog converters as being no better than rather common digital components with decent measurements get just as high a performance level as those of us with MSB and DCS? Do people who claim it’s all about finding perfect speaker placement, do these people outperform those of us with systems that cost multiples more than what they pay (Who also pay close attention to speaker placement as well as everything else)? Or do those of us who pay attention to cables— digital, analog, and power, what we set our components on top of, how we place our speakers, acoustics, and tweaks, expensive DACs and the like, do we get better sound? Who’s right? And how do we ultimately determine sound quality?

 

 

 

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In the case of the "objectivists" I find they are not worth listening to.

  1. They're agenda seems to be founded on starting an argument
  2. Usually with a tone of superiority and talking down to others
  3. They love "flame" wars
  4. Will justify their position with a self fulling prophecy 

The whole reason each of us has a given system is we enjoy it and believe it sounds good to us. That is all the matters. We want to enjoy the music we love on a system that meets sounds good to us.

The premise that measurements are the only thing that can matter is silliness - especially since the music creation process is a creative endeavor. Why do "objectivists" put out the notion "Wow, this sounds terrible but it measures perfectly.  I am right and everyone else is wrong. I will be happy to be unhappy and pissed off but at least I am right."

Not even sure why objectivists want to engage except for some deep seated emotional issue to prove something to others and covert them from the misguided subjectivist path to the light of the objectivist religion.