Townshend Springs under Speakers
@mitch2 “They call them Sound Anchor Stands” I suppose that they make them for the 2Cs? It seems like most of the people that like spikes and/or sound anchors seem to have cabinets that are not ringing and resonating? I could easily imagine that people with “I’ll say better made” speaker cabinets, prefer spikes and mass to pin them spatially.And that the isolators may help actually people who’s cabinets tend to excite the floor. I am in the first camp. |
That certainty appears to be a contributing factor (Speaker cabinet construction and type of floor/surface they are sitting on). ) Seems what Richard Vandersteen was alluding to given his post testing comments and results in his two seperate rooms. You have to give him credit for actually trying a product with his own speakers. I already gave him credit… actually it was cash ;) So I’ll stick with the spikes they came with. |
Sound Anchors does apparently make stands for 2Cs as shown in this ad. I have never seen a set on any other speakers than on Vandersteens . Well lets suppose there is a difference.
if we excited the speaker with an impulse then it is possible that we could see something different between them in decay? And if we put in a known broadband signal, then we could compare he two in the frequency domain, and look at amplitude and phase.We could also compare the cross correlation of the known signal with the measured signal.Ideally that would appear as the Dirac delta function. If one was DDF and the other smeared out, then technically the better impulse response is higher fidelity, even if one likes the other one better. With tones it sll seems harder to do. The main way it could not be measurable, is if it was not different. Then the main way it could be perceived as different, is if was purely psychological.. |
Did you think this was ASR? OK… What is ASR? Do you recommend it? Apart from 3rd hand reports from Richard Vandersteen (albeit weighty opinion in relation to use with Vandersteen speakers), So what makes his speakers less responsive to springs? it does seem to me that the naysayers are made up of people with no experience of the Townshend products - some with another axe to grind. I am not a total naysayer, I just want to know how they work… and whether they would work with my speakers. (Before I spend the money.) And academically… what makes them work with some speakers and not others seems pretty interesting. My speakers are currently on a concrete slab, but will be soon moving to another house on a hardwood floor (on joists). They have been on spikes for 15+ years (on the concrete slab). I could picture having a slab of granite on springs, and the speakers on spikes on the granite. This assumes that the new floor might be worbling the speaker. There is no axe. |
09-15-2021 7:00amYou don’t understand I always heard it as being, “like spats on a pig”. I concur with @prof points, and they are something I concur with. It is tiresome to ask how something works and be told, “well just buy the $6000 and see for yourself”.Or with power cords, “buy them an see.” There seems to be a majority that have little intellectual curiosity in know the “How” and “why” part. On my deleted post the day, I used the term “Connoisseurs of ignorance”. It is certainly OK not to know why something works, but that ignorance is not something that one should be taking a great deal of pride and celebration in. Somethings are we may never fully know, but we should be able to appreciate that some people are working towards trying to understand those things, even if it is a quixotic endeavour. |
Technically it was the inconsistent unbelievable story-telling that was shown to be inconsistent and unbelievable. I am on record over and over again always believing anyone who says they can’t hear. Never argue with someone telling you they can’t hear. They know what they’re talking about. People having psychotic episodes, cease to hear voices when anti-psychotic medication is administered. We should not automatically default to believing what they tell us, unless there is a way to verify it is extant in the physical world. So it is perplexing to assume that one should default the Fox Moulder state of, “Wanting to believe” when there is a lack of evidence that we should believe it. At best, without a way to measure and show that something is really there, then we might just have to agree to disagree? I am not saying that you do not hear something. Just that there is no reason (as of yet) that has been shown that i too should be able to also hear it. Or maybe we have some hypothesis but less in the way of measurements shown that it exists. |
@mitch2 thanks. the quote in the link says,
Which seems at odds with the foo and magic in the way this thread has evolved. |
