Townshend Audio Podiums: The Full Review


I’ve been fascinated with the importance of vibration control for more than three decades now. A lot of my experience is already covered in Millercarbon's Mega Vibration Control Journey https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/millercarbon-s-mega-vibration-control-journey The Journey ended with springs. Then I got Pods, and wrote Vibration Control and the Townshend Audio Seismic Pods https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/vibration-control-and-the-townshend-audio-seismic-pods Now as we continue our journey forward it is time to review the Townshend Audio Podiums.  

Podiums are based on the same basic engineering used in Pods. A spring is encased in a rubber sleeve that functions as a sort of bellows, trapping the air inside. At the top the spring is attached to a threaded metal plate with a single very precise small hole in it. The threads are for height adjustment and the hole is to allow air to pass through. A very small, precision-controlled amount of air. This tiny little hole allows the air to function as a damper.  

A fundamental challenge with springs is they bounce. We want them to bounce. But we do not want them to keep bouncing! When that happens we say it resonates, and resonance adds color. It is a form of distortion, and we don’t want it. Springs all by themselves are already very good at isolation. Please read the above threads to see just how good they are. But even as good as they are springs do have this problem of resonance.  

The problem with damping is figuring out how to achieve it, and how much to use? The air valve method Max Townshend invented uses only a couple percent damping ratio and does this with air alone and no moving parts. Genius!  

The four damped spring towers are attached to a very dense, massive and inert plinth. My traditional knuckle rap test yielded a very satisfactory ’thunk’. Stiff and highly damped, it is also covered in an extremely durable and beautiful finish. Sliding speakers on and off left zero marks on them, and they really are handsome to look at.  

The damped spring towers at each corner are threaded for two different leveling adjustments. The first is to level the unloaded Podium on the floor. This first step eliminates any problems or situations where the floor is not perfectly level. This adjustment (if necessary) is made with a special thin wrench that comes supplied with the Podiums.

The speakers are then placed on the Podiums and fine tuned for precision placement. At this point, loaded with 150lbs worth of Moabs, making fine positioning adjustments on my thick carpet proved a bit of a challenge. The solution I came up with was BDR Round Things under the footers. Furniture gliders would probably also work. If it is even a problem. My carpet and pad are very thick. They do look like they will work beautifully on hardwood flooring.  

Once perfectly positioned the speakers are raised by turning the knobs at each corner. There is a process to doing this. First all four are turned equally, until all four corners are floating free and clear. It is essential to allow freedom of motion in all planes. Once this is achieved then the speakers can be adjusted perfectly level by turning the knobs in pairs- the two on the left or right, or the two on the front or back. Adjusting in pairs this way avoids diagonal rocking.  

Describing this process in print is hard but doing it in practice is easy. In fact this was the coolest part of setting them up! With the Podiums I was able to place my level right on the Podium. Even fully loaded with about 150lbs of Moabs and BDR the knobs turn silky smooth, and precision leveling is super easy.

Okay, okay, so how do they sound? In a word: wonderful! This can’t come as much of a surprise. They are after all basically Pods attached to a plinth, and the Pods work wonderfully under everything I have tried. Still, the Podiums are pretty impressive.  

The first thing I noticed was improvement in the direction of what I would call a more natural sound. Natural sounds are almost never described as having glare or strain. Natural sounds can be quite loud. But there is a difference in nature between a loud natural sound and the same sound through a system. They may measure the same volume but we have no trouble hearing the difference.

At this point I have to agree with Max and say that the difference is ringing. Natural sounds start and stop very quickly. Sounds reproduced by our systems cause the system itself to vibrate, then the room, and the room feeds back into the system until the whole thing is ringing like a bell. This all happens very fast and can be seen demonstrated on a seismograph placed on a speaker. https://youtu.be/BOPXJDdwtk4?t=6

In any case, whatever the explanation it is clear there is a lot less glare and strain with speakers on the Townshend Podiums. This results for me in a lot less listener fatigue. Another thing I find is that while I don’t necessarily need to turn the volume up, when I do it is way more enjoyable! The combination of speakers like Moabs capable of playing very loud and strain-free with Podiums is intoxicating!

The next thing I’m hearing is a massive improvement in what I would call truth of timbre, or tone, or whatever you want to call it that makes each individual instrument sound more like itself and not any other. Not the big differences that distinguish a steel from a string guitar, but the little details that distinguish one wood-bodied gut-stringed guitar from another. Not hyped-up count the spittle hitting the mic details either but the sort of tonal shadings that distinguish the real vocal talent from the second-tier. Even now after more than a month on Podiums still I put on records that have me going Wow that wood block really is a wood block!  

This is why I spent so much time explaining Max’s damping mechanism. Before Podiums my Moabs were on springs. The load was the same, and the springs were properly sized for the load. However, the springs on my DIY platforms were not damped. Consequently, they had their characteristic resonance. This resonance colors everything played on them. Like viewing the world through rose-colored glasses- you may like what you see but that ain’t the world! Now on Podiums the world as presented by the Moabs is full blown Ultra Panavision 70! https://vashivisuals.com/the-hateful-eight-ultra-panavision-70/

Those who follow me know I am not just about sound quality, I am also about value. Because I am so passionate about sound quality, but have only limited resources, I have to be. No way I have enough money to go chasing the latest and greatest. One look at my system anyone can see how hard I will work if it will get the job done for less. https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/8367 

For sure springs will do a very fine job for very low cost. Just about any spring, properly tuned and used, will outperform an awful lot of stuff that costs a whole lot more. For sure anyone in the market for good vibration control solutions- and that should be everyone! - should consider springs. But Townshend Podiums are so much better than ordinary springs that I have to say that even at their price they are not just as good value, but even better. They are that good.


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Anybody enjoy being praised....Thanks...

But truth is more precious....I am not crafty and my audio knowledge is minimalistic.... Truth is with only small amount of imagination and very basic materials, ANYBODY who DARE to try and experiment without esthetical consideration will obtain surprizing results inspired by many tweaks or costly device....

Then thanks but many others here are more knowledgeable and more crafty than me but dont dare because they dont need and dont mind to experiment with trivial materials at peanuts cost...Millercarbon being one and some others....




One of the key element of superiority of Townshend springs, save the fact they are well tuned and well designed, must be the damping method and it is of the utmost importance for the springs to be well damped.... (I dont own them, i affirm that repeating the positive reviews here and the glimpse i had in the inside of this product)...

Then i decide to add something to damp my already very positive own springs solution...

I added to my double asymmetrically compressed 2 sets of 4 springs boxes, one set over the finely tuned loaded speakers (around 80 pounds) and another under them (80 pounds +the speaker weight), some sorbothane spherical pieces duro 70, but with no sorbothane touching the speakers side (very important)....

And the improvement was very audible.... I dont think i am too far from Townshend results now... And anyway my cost including the sorbothane piece is a liitle over 100 bucks.... S.Q./ price ratio over the roof....
Well, I went a ahead an ordered a set of the Townshend Seismic Platforms #3 from England for my speakers. One was delivered yesterday the other is due to arrive on Monday.
 I cannot wait to read your report here...

You could not be wrong, if i judge by my own experiment with springs done right...

My own homemade approximate engineering experiment is very good and not comparable to my previous isolation sandwich which was good....And certainly not on par with the professionnally engineered and tested design of Townshend... Then....

My best to you....
I’m all for skepticism as many here know. But it can lower in to cynicism and also value judgement if we don’t watch it,
Your toughtful intelligent reply calm my agitated heart....i could go sleeping....

Thanks....
I do not doubt your isolation system performs adequately, but I take exception to your denigrating a product solely due to price.
Now, if you could install the Townshend or any other isolation device and compare it to yours, then I would find a reason to accept your point of view.
Do you read my post before attacking me?



These are my words:
i dont doubt the Tonwshend platform reviewers....I am pretty sure the product is very good...
Then in a more costly system than mine the addition of the Townshend platform is justified by the improbability to obtain better isolating result by any other means, and the impossibility to replace vibrations controls improvement in any way by other
I dont doubt tough that the Townshend platform will exceed my device in S.Q, because their fine engineering....
These are MY EXACT WORDS IN MY LAST FEW POSTS....

My own experiment with springs isolation in this thread are there precisely here to CONFIRM the powerful positive impact of springs isolation design....NOT denigrating it....

But all thing said for me it is ILLOGICAL to add a device so costly to my peanuts cost 500 system....But i will buy it immediately if my system was not so average and like millercarbon valued system for example... But you dont put costly formula one tires on  LADA russian  car..... DO YOU? Is it difficult to understand for you?




You owe me apology for attacking me without reason at all....Confirming the value of a technology is not denigrating it....Nowhere i suggest that my use of springs is superior to the platform.... am i an idiot equating my creative but improvised and not always practical double springs under tuned heavy concrete load with a genuine researched simple to use quality design ? No i am not, but i am proud for my improvisation at peanuts cost, yes....I only REPORTED my experience here, and it is powerful....Springs are powerful for isolating...Then Townshend like i said is very good and no long brain work is necessary before   buying ....Springs work...

Read someone posts and intention before insulting....
The crooks have to make a living too.
I am tired of idiotic posts....Too much for my evening....By the way revise your understanding of Newton interpretation...And read about vibrations....




I will not answer more.....
Ever wonder why people hate audiophiles?
If you hate audiophiles, with all that goes on in the world, you have a big problem...

I am pretty sure you hate many other people or insignificant things...

Myself i dont even hate myself....Read a book, you will have no more time to hate, working synchronized neurons are mute....



I dont understand at all why someone can contest the benefit of isolation... The problem is what is the best results possible? i dont doubt the Tonwshend platform reviewers....I am pretty sure the product is very good...

Myself i cannot buy for a 500 bucks system a so costly design....

Marginal returns cannot be meaningful for me ....The relation between increase of positive S.Q./ cost of the device, is not significant in my case because the device exceed many times the cost of my system....My homemade device on the other hand cost peanuts....

What is significant is the effect of springs vibrations controls on my audio system.... It is huge and irreplaceable by any other devices .... It cannot be replaced by controls in acoustical or electrical working dimensions for sure.... Then in a more costly system than mine the addition of the Townshend platform is justified by the improbability to obtain better isolating result by any other means, and the impossibility to replace vibrations controls improvement in any way by other means than vibration device control anyway....

The problem is simple in my experience: Almost all people are completely unconscious of the negative impact of any source of noise in their system... Be it mechanical electrical or acoustical....Nobody can listen to his noise floor and say i know where you are "noise floor" now, dont hide yourself anymore! 😁😊

This is the reason why they spend money in the wrong place most of the times and upgrade an already good dac, or amplifier or even speakers without having never listen to them at their peak potential....

Isolation was mandatory for me.... My 2 speakers were on the same desk than my gear....My homade  sandwich isolation device was very good before springs, BUT they introduced a "tuning" that was not what we all wish for unbeknownst to me....Coupling/decoupling tune the speakers in a negative way most of the times.... Springs isolate first.... They dont tune first....And modulo some precaution they finely isolate without too much tuning of their own...And i let my sandwich under the springs then even the springs are relatively isolated ....
😊😊

But with these little footers it wasn’t all pros. I did find the sound became a bit less dense and palpable and punchy, a bit more elctrostatic-like. After several days I removed the footers and that sense of density and punch returned, though losing a bit of the other properties I mentioned with the footers. Though on balance if I had to choose, I liked the sound more with the speakers just on the floor. I seek density and palpability in sound and it’s hard to give up.
This impression is normal....I had the same impression with only 4 springs boxes under my speakers... I add another sets on top of the speakers with a damping load around 80 pound, them the TIMBRE become more meaty and way more natural.... The dyssemetric compression of the 2 sets of springs made all the difference in the world... Internal resonance of the speakers box was decreased ( one set is directly compressed by only the 80 pounds load and to the other one under the speakers is added the speaker weight)

I dont doubt tough that the Townshend platform will exceed my device in S.Q, because their fine engineering.... But that cost me 100 bucks and the effect is without negative now....Tuning the springs with the compressive force ask for finetuning around maximum 1 % of the compressing load... If not the effect will be negative like you describe.,..I did play then with listening experiments between  50 and 200 grams added or substracted to reach optimal compression....If you over compress or undercompress near the optimal point  the effect is very audible on instrument timbre and mid  bass frequencies...

My best to you....
The acid test would be if the sorbothane/springs/ podiums etc were switched in and out (with speaker height maintained) without the listener being aware.
In the last 2 years some of my changes were subtle and subjected to some doubts even by me... In this sense a "placebo effect" is possible for a specific change...

But for an incremental number of not so subtle changes like moving an acoustic absorber or reflective surface or diffusor, the changing experiments are the key.... No need to blind test for acoustic treatments.... Listening is mandatory,...

An Helmholtz array of tubes and pipes with variable necks are the same thing.... You listen, you try varied lenght of necks with different pipes volumes, no need to a blind test....

Most of my experiments, but not all for sure, never need a blind test to assure me of their existence positive effects....

Then this placebo mantra and blind test urgency convinced me that MOST people here have never conducted listening experiments nor even devise experiments in their own in the mechanical, electrical and acoustical dimension....They want to buy miracle solution and they are afraid to do it....But there is NO miracle solution, only an incremental sets of controls we are obliged to work with and with many , many low cost devices in my case... I needed plenty of time, listening time for the experiments, i never need money for tweaks or upgrades...

I bought nothing, used my own homemade devices which perhaps explain my fearless endeavour... I dont buy snake oil or costly tweaks then i was fearing no fraud...At worst i bought some S.G. i modified 10 bucks each for verifying some audio claims by people who tried this or by company who sell them like Acoustic Revive....No need of a blind test for a 10 bucks experiment...

All those afraid to experiment with peanuts costs devices are lazy or dont have the time, because it takes me 2 years many hours each day during my retirement, or are in the situation where in a beautiful living room experiments is out of the equation....These are the main reasons for fear: lazyness, lack of time, fear of snake oil costly miracle product, the wife factor and no room to play with....Thats all....None of these factors interfered in my case...




To answer your post specfifically , using sorbothane give very audible effects, but way less positive than my rightful, dyssemetric or without dyssemetric compression, use of springs ...i used a sandwich of varied materials under my springs....This sandwich was already useful before my sandwich at peanuts costs...(bamboo plate,cork plate.granite plate, quartz feet, sorbothane pieces)

No need of blind test.... 😁😊 No blind test will reveal the limit of sorbothane effect.... You must go on experimenting to learn that....

Also like i already said, listening is not an innate ability, it is some HABIT someone learn to use in a specific environment, with specific gear, specific musical files.... It is not an automatically transferable superpower in any environment, with any gear, and any musical files...Like some may suggest... Like some pretend it is wanting to debug the alleged claim ....I never claim that for myself.... I only claim what i learn experimenting....

Your listening is not an absolute power and never will be, it is the origin point for an audio journey, no more no less....

Blind test is useful to experiment with by companies for scientific or market reasons and fun with audio groups of audiophiles yes, but it is of NO USE in any personal audio journey... Believing otherwise reveal a fear of doing anything, buying or experimenting alike....



We already know only too well what happens when cables, DACs, CD players, 192kHz+ bitrates etc are all tested in this manner.

NONE of these changes in your list are powerful like acoustic treatment or acoustic controls, or electrical grid controls, or mechanical vibrations and resonance controls....They are way more debatable changes and they are precisely the ONLY changes people consider generally because it is" buying and ready to plug" solutions, no need to experiment at all, no listening experiments time is need... It is not surprizing that many people ask for blind test to prove the real existence of these subtle claimed change or not so drastically audible changes...

More imporetantly all these changes in your list are gear dependent... they dont work the same positive or negatively with all gear...
But acoustical treatment and controls, electrical grid controls, and mechanical vibrations or resonances controls work with ANY gear the same..... They are what i called  controls on the working embeddings dimensions of ANY sustem....They are NOT upgrades they are not "tweaks".... They are no cost devices created in listenings experiments.... I sell creativity, a method, a concept at no cost.... I dont sell anything else...


I vouch for my observation about audible changes but it is true that i have not answered your precise question about the swiss graph.... For that i apologize...

My best to you....
Mahgister - I thought negative dB was below our audible range.
Rob Watts know what he speak about....He dont sell dac he design them.... Try to understand not repeating evident fact like negative 200 Db are directly unaudible it is like repeating placebo effect mantra...  😊 ...Everybody knows that... What is less known is the power of effects percolating from one scale to another scale in some phase transition... The physics of one scale can transform itself in different effects on another physics scale....Phase transition physics....

No one has ever said that human ears can DIRECTLY perveive so minute difference IN ITSELF but it is possible through some critical phase transition... Then it is a transfer of informative effect from one scale to another one where resulting amplified different effects begins them to be audible....This change is what is described in the Swiss video about vibrations effect and different impact with time (phase transitions) over frequencies scales...

My best to you....

I can’t imagine this manufacturer would make an argument based on such numbers so my maths must be wrong. Can someone put me right?





For Rob Watts the very well known dac designer human ears can discern differences pertaining to change in the noise floor from -200 Db to -175 Db

Iam not a scientist at all but i believe him....Some changes not directly audible could percolate by their effects and could be audible indirectly at another scale...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXyjsSYjnL8&t=3s



For the vibrations controls:


The noise floor differences between speakers on the ground or variously isolated certainly make an audible differences....like in dac a different noise floor make one...



My own method using, near the optimal compressive point of the springs, 2 different compression mode, one slightly over the optimal compression point the other slightly under it, at the 2 end of my rectangular box speaker work not only isolating but decreasing some destructive resonance of the enclosure and the change are spectacular ....




For the acoustic controls:

i use many devices but mainly passive materials controls like most, reflective, diffusive and absorbent surfaces.... But most important i use An Helmholtz pressured pipes grid of 18 tubes which are powerful in the transformation of the acoustical peoperties of my room on many frequencies scale simultaneously.... The many others devices complement it in a less impactful way but nonetheless in a very audible way for example i use ionizers for working of the air pressure and 12 S.G. which are modified with minerals addition and connected to my resonators grid... For me the S.G. work on the electrical noise floor of the room....All these audible effects go from slightly audible to powerfully audible and they all act together to give to me an audio system with a basic cost/quality S.Q. over the roof... I never listen to a system that make mine like trash.... It is not the best at all, but what count is not the system but the way we tune it.....




For the electrical grid control:

I use my own peanuts cost device with success the "golden plates" : shungite plate+copper tape on the outside ... i use them all along my electrical grid....i use also other cheap minerals...









In audio we must learn how to controls 3 conjugate noise floors in the house/room/system : the mechanical one, the electrical one and the acoustical one.... I called that the controls of the three working embeddings dimensions for any audio system... It is a method of listenings experiments and controls; it is not "snake oil" it cost peanuts and it is not a magical costly secondary addition of a "tweak"....

I succeeded my own way....Cost: peanuts.....






«We must always refrain our sarcasm in case we lost balance ourself or if it is an acrobat's fall, unless we tried it ourself before smiling»-Anonymus Smith
All vibrate in a speaker inducing resonance and unwanted colorations...Ideally decouplig the drivers enclosures from the tweeter enclosure would be an idea for example there is plenty of other one... ...

Thinking that no external vibrations or internal one never color in an unwanted way the sound is naive...Resonance and tuning communicating parts are pervasive in speakers...The slight modification on top of a speaker like adding few grams on a critical damping load produce audible spectacular effect, a better timbre perception or a worst one...

No perfect solution exist but it is up to each one of us also to look for one.... I chose double dyssimetric compression with damping load...Cost peanuts...Better tuning of my speakers between the 2 different compressive forces near one another applied to the speaker rectangular box......


And simple common sense also may speak:
Speaker manufactures are YOU and ME, the other guys (any speaker manufacture) just decided to try to sell their ideas and make money.

It works for me mahgister. As long as you get what YOU want.
You are spot on....

I listen now to a files i had for seven years....

Balinese gamelan and gongs with flute.... The timbre details of each sound is heard for the first time in their own sound space with depth imaging in my 2 positions of listening......

It was what i look for.... No need to pay more ....

Except more " peanuts" to refine  it if my imagination could look for a new inspirational device easy to devise....I am not crafty like you are or like others....😁😊😎

My best to you.... 
I must say that myself i dont believe anymore because of my experience and experiments that audiophile experience cost necessarily big money...It is a market entertained myth....

It cost peanuts only if we think with elementary acoustic and physics and if we use our ears...

For sure there is plenty of audio system better than mine here in the virtual page but not so much if they are not well embedded, and most are not....

For me the most important asset is a dedicated audio room.... I would have never been able to experiment in my wife living room .... And i would believe like most that audiophile experience is very costly in a living room....And it is generally the case for esthetical imperatives and conflicting use of the space contents ....

It is all i know....

I just went through this last fall and one thing I realized is that the weight under speakers (and electronics) is not evenly distributed. The weight of the drivers tend to push the weight distribution toward the front. Even under my heavy Sound Anchor stands this was true. Therefore, unless you want your speakers to tilt downward in the front, you should take the variable weight distribution into account when you size your springs and you will probably need stiffer
I dont have this problem with my 2 sets of dyssimetrically compressed springs boxes under different load at the 2 end of the speakers box.... They work by feed back....And the dyssimetric tuned compressive force damp the dynamic....
must be why not a single speaker manufacture has this as part of their design
It take not much very great processing thinking time to answer that manufacturers cannot solve all vibrations and resonance problems , electrical noise, and acoustical potentials or limitations related to their specific design for all customers tastes and for all possible environment at way greater cost than the limited working design creation itself... They create a relatively good functional design not the bullet proof better possible one in the world for anyone at any location with any connected gear....

For speakers, they let customer chose the way to isolate/couple/decouple/damp/ etc with their own wise or unwise choices....It will be counterproductive to attach a costly device to the speakers.... All devices has their own limitations and specific capabilities....It is a trade-off that make sense for specific customers ears, in specific location with specific linked gear....

Did it?

It is very easy to create the best speakers in the world, it is only necessary  attach to it a neural network for feed back correction in micro second times....

what will be the cost?

I will go on with my springs boxes dyssimetrically compressed under load....Peanuts cost....
Springs with shocks work.. PERIOD.
You are right....

And i will only add also that my cheap double set of springs dyssimetrically compressed under different loads work like fine tuning correcting resonance feed back tool and not only isolate well....PERIOD.

😁😊😎

Which is better? i dont know and dont give a damn ,but with the 2 cost compared i will stick with mine....Peanuts compared to more than one thousand bucks....




That’s one hell of a spring and damper you’ve got there! I doubt very much that an engineer would use a steel spring and an air-damped bellows
It is the reason why my double set of boxes springs dyssimmetrically compressed under the 2 different compressive load ( the damping load on top of the speaker over a set of springs or damping load+speaker weight  on top of another sets of springs ) work better for me....

The 2 sets dyssimetrically compressed work like one feed back tuning device on the internal resonance of the speaker box.....They dont only isolate they work as a tool for decreasing rsonance powerful impact from the speaker....

Cost: peanuts...
Springs must be adjusted to near 1% and even less, of the total compressive load or force applied.... It is very easy by ears experiment....225 grams and less are audible if the springs are already near their optimal compression...The timbre perception coming from the speakers give the wish result.... But it takes me few experiments on few days....

The double set of springs under each speaker is 8 boxes by speaker, 4 box under the speaker , 4 boxes on top of it under the heavy damping load, each speaker must be under the heavy load necessary to compress optimally  the 7 springs in each box, and it is a method better than using only less springs by each box relatively only to the speaker weight without any damping load...

The reason is the dyssimetric compressive force decrease the speaker internal power of desctructive resonance... Then the springs not only isolate but mostly are a fine tuning tool because of our fine control over the damping load... No comparison with spikes where there is NO CONTROL over the unavoidable tuning related to the structure of the spike itself that will increase some frequency and decrease others....The 2 sets of difdferently compressed springs work like a feed back thermostat for vibrations adjusted to your particular box speakers by refining the compression load....





«It is simple to understand with a number of neurons exceeeding the number of springs in the mattress that we can sleep well after work» -Groucho Marx
Putting springs under speakers and electronics is one of the silliest things I have ever heard of.
I did it, and by EXPERIENCE i know what i speak about with springs do you?

I even devised my OWN method to use them optimally did you? putting springs is not silly if done right when i did adding 2 sets dyssimetrically compressed under each speakers by a heavy load...

What do you speak about in this post save for a bunch of wrong common place affirmations?

Gear does not vibrate? 😁 I will not adress that it is too much evidently false....

The spikes will tune the sound less efficiently than my fine tune 8 springs boxes under a damping load, one set under speakers the other set under the load... It is a fine tune dyssimetric compression better than spikes because you dont have control on spike but you have control over the exact tuning compression used with the 2 sets of 4 springs boxes... Is it difficult to understand?

Spikes tune in one way they sont completely isolate.....Springs boxes could be adjusted precisely to your speakers not the spike tuning...