The thing about objectivists is...


Listening is the essence and central activity of music appreciation. Listening is purely a result of the essential reality of subjectivity, and not that of any "objective reality" which is assumed to exist "out there." The human mind tends to rigidly cling to measurements, pedestrian concepts, and elaborate abstractions in attempt to simplify, subdivide, define, and categorize within the immensity of the realm of the experiential/subjective.

Over-reliance on concrete definitions and ideas serves to attach oneself to a sense of stability and security. The mind secretly hopes this will sufficiently ward off the uneasiness of feeling unsure, or off-balance, about one’s actual degree of comprehension regarding a given topic.

But what is it that is capable of registering sounds, recognition of patterns, recalling memory, and awareness? It’s pure subjectivity. It’s not the brain. That’s only an idea which is based on an entire system of definitions which define other definitions. The mind fortifies the boundaries of its interconnected structure by using circuitously self-reifying definitions.

Consider this: A description of a thing, proposed by the human mind, is only of that which a thing is not. A thing’s reality is not the same as its description.

What is it that is present in the pure silence during the instant just prior to sound waves propagating into the air space of the listening room? What is it which listens?

It’s subjective awareness, devoid of mental content. Your ideas aren’t listening, your experiential awareness is listening.

The more one thinks the same boring ideas one’s been thinking for years, the less one can listen. Subjectivity is the self-existent authority prior to the discernment of any quality, measured quantity, or the detection of that which we term "music". The deeper we can relax and sink into pure, silent subjectivity, the more deeply and purely we can listen and behold. Our subjective awareness becomes purer and less colored, our mind becomes more open and flexible, and experiential reality is seen to be the ever-present continuum which is of the greatest value of all.

128x128gladmo

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[Thanks god there are engineers designing and making hifi gear.]

Philosophers are indispensable in marketing department, and accountants handling the books. 

Clock designed by human beings. They made up the numbers on it.

Birds have no numbers, no clocks.

Is it 9am for the birds?

Maybe a coo coo clock for you and your avian types then? 🤗

 

"Rhythm and Pace" is a term that’s been in use for many, many decades and how you don’t see it having any meaning in "this context" is baffling to me, unless you’re under, say, 20 years of age, and have no appreciation for what’s gone on before you.

What you say could be the factors are some of the factors in determining "rhythm and pace". If it comes across more realistically, then it will have that "rhythm and pace."

That, and the contradictions in what you describe in your scenario with one system versus another shows that one system is better at it than another and is, therefore, responsible for the difference.

"Rhythm and pace" aren’t something you can plug into a system. It’s the result of the system, in toto.

All the best,
Nonoise

I am not sure…
In term of TTs, ones that suffer from alteration of the speed when the sylus drag changes could be reflected in the output signal.

But objectively, one could actually measure that if one choose to do so.

That idea of R&P being possible, gets a bit harder to defend with digital equipment, as the clock in the DAC or iPad is pretty accurate… more accurate than a bird knowing it is 9:00 AM. 😋

… (while pushing proverbial audio-nerd glasses up with finger) …

@tylermunns 

Like this ?:

 

The issue with digital is a fundamental one - why convert analogue, the sound we can hear, to digital.  And then back again.  Everyone knows that such conversions have unavoidable costs, such processes always impose costs.  In digital, the main downside is the need to convert a real-time event into a digital clock time-frame, and then back again.

And copies can be sent to servers all over the world and not lose any bits, nor gain any noise.

From the Merrimack Webster site:
(Are they tracking about a different prat?)

 

prat

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ˈprat

Definition of prat

 

British

: a stupid or foolish person

How do you hijack a thread when you start with a premise that reads more like an acid trip than anything suitable for meaningful discussion? If two sounds are exactly the same, but you perceive them differently on different days, the sound didn’t change, you did. Not a hard concept to understand folks.

But alas… sobriety seems to have returned…

How do you turn off notifications about a discussion you started?

@theaudiomaniac It looked more mushroom, than acid, but I am not expert in either of them.

@asvjerry : it is not a list. It’s just one dude. With multiple banned usernames. He has not posted@theaudiomaniac most recent username in a a day or two, so likely got banned again, but he will be back, with yet another username. He always does

It is like the second coming, but he is on time like german railway, and he also repeats.

Or (he’ll) “Be back” like the terminator?

Oh boy.... it did not take you long to resurface here yet another time. I sounds like I now have to another name in my long list:

 

theaudioamp

 

deludedaudiophile

 

thynamesinnervoice

 

cindyment

 

snratio

 

yesiamjohn

 

sugabooger

 

dletch2

 

audio2design

 

dannad

 

roberttdid

 

roberttcan

 

heaudio123

 

audiozenology

 

atdavid

@thyname why was he banned?

  • for who he is?
  • for what he says?
  • other?

Admittedly I don’t really understand the soliloquy that the OP @gladmo posted, but the @theaudiomaniac posts were intelligible. 

It is probably easier for many of us to revert to talking about other members than to understand, and comprehend the original post.

That may be why the thread is now about one member, rather than about philosophy?