"The Mystery Of Sound Is Mysticism"


bolong

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Musicophilia

This is about the lightning-struck man who is the first chapter of Oliver Sachs' book "Musicophilia."

BAACH4MAC

Fortunately, there are people serious enough about "equipment" that they can come up with breakthroughs like this. I daresay these same people are also great appreciators of the music itself.

Sasquatch Music

How about we go a bit further off the reservation, This interview with Henry Franzoni who is at the top of the heap among Bigfoot researchers slowly morphs into the paranormal or what I prefer to call the supranormal and finally gets into the subject of music. Franzoni in his younger days was an Indie music drummer which has given him insights into what he was "hearing" in some Bigfoot encounters.

Franzoni has been "around the block" re: Bigfoot and has had an intimate relationship with native american tribes in the Pacific Northwest. As a conservationist hired to monitor wildlife populations on reservations he heard and saw many, many unusual things.

 

Understanding the mechanics of sound is not necessarily the same as understanding sound's effects on the spirit of living beings. The audiophile journey for me has been all about that, and I have been very grateful for what has unfolded.

Music is the one incorporeal entrance into the higher world of knowledge which comprehends mankind but which mankind cannot comprehend.

Ludwig van Beethoven

Or to put it another way - everyone both fears and longs for the levee to break.

Break

"Both the man of science and the man of action live always at the edge of mystery, surrounded by it."

J. Robert Oppenheimer

 

"My music is the spiritual expression of what I am - my faith, my knowledge, my being."

John Coltrane

Mahgister - Did you actually listen to the entire interview? I can't believe you did. There are things in there in concordance with your general take on sound and music. Very surprising to hear your reaction.

I was hoping this thread would expose some of the people here who pride themselves on being open-minded but who in fact have some old-fashioned prejudices still lurking in their dark corners. Everyone does.

If you have dug into Bigfoot you know they have a highly developed and sometimes devious sense of humor.

My "orgonite plug."  Please explain.

Sound In Outer Space

We take it for granted that sound is everywhere, but it's not. In most of the universal vacuum there is only an ultra-low frequency hum in some gas and dust clouds. All other sounds are non-existent, and even that hum is not audible to sentient beings.

Sound is a luxury of having an atmosphere. It is incredibly rarefied compared to the whole of the universe.

As a maker and purveyor of orgonite for the past ten years, I understand what you are saying - there are vibrations we experience that are not acoustic but which suggest sound as we interact with them and which give us something analogous to sound when searching for descriptions.

My orgonite can be "flavored" with different additives such as lithium crystals, beryllium crystals, moldavite, etc. that all give an impression that something akin to sound is interacting with us and that this sound can vary quite a bit, which just further argues that acoustic sound is probably made up of things and influences beyond the wave forms accessible to us on oscilloscopes.

That was not a sales pitch. That was an example of a material that has high vibrational characteristics that might also be called a sound. That was the topic at hand.

You had no way of knowing this, but I am 70 years old and about to hang it up with orgonite making. I certainly don't advertise or pump my mailing list anymore, and even if I still was "on the make" this forum would not be on my list of places to hawk my weird wares.

Dude - watch the video. All will be explained. It is not sensationalist. Why you would automatically assume that I would direct your attention to something distracting is puzzling, nor would I ever be engaged in "derailing" a thread that I had started in the first place.

No problem. It’s the way it goes on public forums. Humans being the itchy and scratchy entities they are they are more enamored of picking fights over relatively innocuous things especially now that the media environment has been pitched so shrill.

To reiterate for "thecarpathian" we were talking about being affected by vibrations assumed to be beyond the range of human hearing. I was suggesting that there are other such vibrations - microwaves being yet another example.

Havana Syndrome

In the case of orgonite, which functions like a capacitor with a compressed crystal inside it, there are people who "feel" the energy field quite emphatically. There may not technically be a "sound" associated with it, but some liken it to a sound perhaps because of the way it interacts with the brain. Maybe a better way to say it is that it is reminiscent of sound which for the brain can be the same thing as a sound.

 

 

The most amazing musical instrument I have ever encountered was the voice of a girlfriend of mine in college 5 decades ago. This was just her everyday conversational voice. She was not a "singer" as such, but everyone thought she was singing all the time. "Music" doesn't have to be counted or prefigured. It can come spontaneously flowing out of anything at all which is its best surprise.

These theories hint at why I find the later music of Deuter to be so attractive. He has what was once used to describe the writing of Ernest Hemingway - " skillful simplicity."  The better my sound system has become the more can I appreciate what he does. Outwardly, his work might be derogatorily labelled "new age," but I prefer to think of it as a category of its own. Its effect on me is intensely physiological and entrancing, but that did not start taking effect until my sound system could rise to the occasion.

Deuter

He didn't really find himself musically until the early 2,000's, and not all of that appeals to me personally, but much of it does.