The Insane World of High End Audio! Is it All a Scam?


This 15 minutes of youtube video by "cheapaudioman" say a lot and hide a lot...

He review low cost products ...

His analysis of audiophiles world here seems fair to me...

But nowhere in all his videos and in this one  he mention "acoustics" as the basis of audio hobby, the anker of any system  and gear piece  evaluation and satisfaction...

He  always talk about the gear... Probably acoustics for him as for most is only acoustics panels purchase...

My point is not that the audio world of audiophile is a scam with scammers...

Not at all.

It is ignorance  of what is acoustics basics that makes people victim of their own decisions  and a potential prey for honest or dishonest sellers..

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeqbFYaJisQ

mahgister

cheapaudioman is not the subject of the thread...

I use it to explain who scam who...

 

 

Cheapaudioman imho is trolling for clicks.

move on

Now Suppose,

That i justify my ignorance of acoustics by claiming that , price matter, gear matter, my taste matter more than acoustics basic...

We often read also that musical taste matter and all musical styles forms are equal...

 

 

Sorry but this is wrong...

Acoustics basic concepts including psycho-acoustics matter more than price, gear, and my taste generally...

If i claim the opposite as cheapaudioman selling low cost gear or Jay selling high cost gear, i deceive myself and others as they did unvolontarily by ignorance ... As do any consumers who buy without end in so called upgrades instead of doing basic study and experiments...

 

Suppose i had a cancer...

Which music i will pick to relax ?

According to my taste ?

Sorry no....

metal music will increase your tumor, classical will decrease them...

It is simple verified experiments in science :

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30632030/

Here the conclusion of this serious study :

«In this work, we found for the first time that different musical
genres can induce a different response considering cell prolifer-
ation and gene expression in tumor cells. More analyses are
required to determine how exactly a musical stimulus can induce
a response in supposedly non-auditory cancer cells, so far as to
alter the expression of genes involved in apoptosis and cell-cycle
control. We suspect that frequencies and amplitudes of the
soundwaves can change relative gene expression, but we still
do not fully understand the mechanisms behind this phenome-
non. More experiments are needed to unravel this mystery be-
cause understanding the effects of a specific type of music on
cancer cells could advance the potential of music therapy for
cancer patients, not only for the psychological effects, but as a
possible co-adjuvant to traditional treatment.»

 

 

There is no taste in acoustics, no taste in audio, only acoustics facts...

In medecine there is no taste either, only efficient music or destructive one...

 

in audio most people scammed themselves , reviewers as consumers ...

 

And for the troll who acxcused me of repeating the same sentence, it is the second scientific articles i refered to in this thread...I gave content,i discuss with my brain working,  i dont troll people giving repeating  idiotic sarcasms..

And for the other troll trailing behind my avatar for few years now , i will decide if i close the thread or others people will decide by staying silent...

Nobody arrogant will decide if a thread is closed throwing sarcasm or deciding by his own decision ...

The audiogon staff decide...

@mahgister You are a theorycrafter and you live in your head. You wrote volumes about BACCH on different threads without ever hearing it or living with it...quite bizarre actually, don’t you think?

You claim to have tuned a 100 helmholtz resonators by ear and put in some seamless mechanical equalization with it, etc. Again, I think you’re full of it,  some bizarre theory crafting in play again...gives you psychological solace perhaps.

I don’t think you’re a dumb dude (definitely not), but, let’s just say you appear to have some ’challenges’ .. You should probably stick with topics like music genres, artist discovery, spirituality, etc where your posts can be enjoyable. Write album reviews or something.

But, this whole "mechanical, electrical, especially acoustical informed controls over our ears/brain/speakers/room relation.." theory crafted broken loop word salad needs to stop.

 

 

deep_333

You are a theorycrafter and you live in your head ...quite bizarre actually, don’t you think?... I think you’re full of it, some bizarre theory crafting ... You should probably stick with topics like music genres ... But, this whole "mechanical, electrical, especially acoustical informed controls over our ears/brain/speakers/room relation.." theory crafted broken loop word salad needs to stop.

I can't imagine what @mahgister wrote that would upset you so much, but I think he should be welcome here.

the adage you get what you pay for is generally true, however there are certain high-end brands were many dollars spent on the look of the case.

 

however, we have direct experience in testing different reference amplifiers, 

we tested the original Parasound jc 1 vs Elecrocompaniet aw400s

vs chord spm 600s vs chord spm 6000

these amplifiers were all at very different prices and employed very different technologies and topologies 

jc1 class a/b 10k a pair

aw400 class a/b 14k a pair

on a direct comparison the elecro amplifiers were dramatically better sounding

then the chord starter Monos were even better faster cleaner and more dynamic 16k a pair

then the chord reference mono blocks 32k a pair 

 

these were the best of all with the widest and deepest sound stage that made the KEF blades come alive

 

Dave and Troy

Audio intellect NJ