My first experience with "separates" was back in the early '80's. I was cruising around Jafco in Bellevue, WA and came across a used Phase Linear 3300 preamp sitting on a discount shelf. I didn't know anything about it, other than it looked cool. So I bought it. My "gateway" because now I needed an amp, speakers, turntable, interconects, quality speaker cables, etc. with infinite upgrade possibilities! Little did I know then that the beginning of my journey started with a product from a local guy named Bob Carver, who started Phase Linear, sold it, and started Carver Corp in 1979, and who didn't live too far from me.