duly noted. Sorry, it is your thread and having been here since 1999
I’ve seen enough of this that I should know better and bite my tongue. No worries at all @bryhifi - I understand the temptation to use reason and facts to resolve misguided declarations. Best, E |
I had an old pair of Decware speakers that allowed one to tailor the sound with different resistors. Wilson lets you do this too. In fact, this is the only part of the crossover you will ever see, as they encase the rest of it in black resin. |
quiz time - anybody remember the Cello Palette? Mark Levinson's (the man) post ML (the company) equalizer, right? I never saw one in real life, or any other Cello component. |
quiz time: how does an astute designer fix baffle step in the filter ? I know of at least three answers - A BSC filter
- Judicious selection of parts the low pass filter if you can, which for me is often using a coil with slightly higher DCR than you would otherwise. Also see Gravesen's writing on this.
- Don't fix it and make your speakers true-bookshelf speakers. See the Crystal Cable Minissimo Diamond for a commercial example.
Best, E |
Hi @bryhifi
You aren't wrong, but Kenjit is notorous for making statements he can't back up or contradicting himself within the same sentence.
I for one would be personally grateful to those who let factless claims go ignored.
Thank you,
Erik
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I wanted to add that I appreciate Erik’s efforts in playing the role of
an informal facilitator on this forum by consistently being the
original poster of many threads that are creative, concern a wide
variety of interesting as well as relevant audio topics which are
typically thought provoking and that usually elicit many equally
interesting, entertaining and informative responses. Thank you for the kind words, @arion I constantly worry that if we don't bring in more of our own experiences into the forums Audiogon will turn into nothing better than a shopping suggestion forum. |
Completely myopic. Totally out of touch with reality. I’m getting the impression you don’t like a lot of people, @douglas_schroeder |
I'm a big believer in measurements and tools in speaker design. Of course I believe in science and engineering and that there are giants of both who have lots to say about what makes a great speaker.
It's also true though that the recording engineers are making judgement calls as to what we want to hear, and what gear we use to listen to it. This has always been true. There is no commonly accepted baseline of how a neutral speaker should behave. I mean, I use the B&K curve as a reference, but truth be told not many others do.
In this sense, the motion picture industry had a much better standard in the work of THX. Not only did they specify frequency response curves, reference volume levels but even crossovers and auditorium acoustics!
That's light years more standardized than we have in the music industry.
So what should we do? In my opinion, buy the speakers we like the most and use tone controls when needed. Sit back and enjoy what makes you happy.
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I am lucky because I like my speakers, Happy is the man who wants nothing he does not already have! Erik |
Erik, do you see now why built in EQ doesnt work? Kenjit, I’m not going to attempt a fact based conversation with a poster who calls science and filter design "hocus-pocus" whenever the conversation goes over their head. You've also posted that you have no idea what components in a crossover do, so your condescension is hugely amusing. Best, E |
OMG! Speakers have crossovers! Hold on, just a quick call to Lowther.... That's what I like about you, ebm, you are always able to contribute and use your experiences to help everyone enjoy their music listening in a positive and friendly manner. Best, Erik |
