The end of LP collecting????


I don't know about most of you but I am a joe six pack fince kind of guy and it bums me out that I keep seeing prices of equipment becaome more and more rediculous.That's why, say with amplification I ike a companies like Quicksilver,Rogue,VTL etc where just getting a set up that sound sbetter than mid-fi (and of course there budget companies for source compenet and spoeakers) where buying their products does not insult your inteliigence,But being a guy whao over tha past 6 years ghhas amazzes a pretty decent collection of LP's off EBAY the party seesms to be over.Yes we all wish we bought items before we di (Micorsoft in '83) or a split window Corvette jst to store away the wholeLP thing at least one ebay (which dtermines prices at shows and shops) the prices over the past 12 or pwerhaps 18 months has just gotten totally out of hand.Lp's that could get over the couple of years say $60 in mint conditon (like a Prestige Miles) not regularly go for $100..Bassically prices have doubled or trippled in one year.I know supply /demand but the supply has been static but I find it weird that everyone and his cousin finally disocvered Ebay even though it's been a forum for years.Blue Notesin particular have eneded up primarily Japan for quite some time but now the prices have just gobne nuts.Yes a goofd copy of a lowproduction item like Tina Brooks (made propular by the Mosaic set wheu\ic revived (or in fact started his fame-read his bio it was sad a talented guy who recorded as a dideman for a few Blue Note guys like McLean,Hubbard, or Burrell) but he himself recoded 4 LP's for Lyon and Wollf.But sales were so poor with the first titled "True Blue" that the other 3 staid in the can until Cuscuna brought them out on Mosaic.all of a suden copies would reguarlly go for $1500 when 10 yeas before they were bought for $5 in some cut out bin.But now a regular Mobley 1500 series LP will go for $2K.Barney Wilen excellent (Buy it for $8 on CD on Vogue) goes for $2500.And jusyt last week I sawa Sihab Shihab "With The Dabish Radio Orchestra ": go for $1800 pounds.You do the conversion.Iam satisfied with my $25 CD re-issue.But it's all taken the fun out of it for me siunce the priceing ( three or four players WILL get an LP they want no matter what.I guess if I was woth a few million I woulkd be that guy.I am only glad that since 1995 or so with 2 bit K2 [processing CD's are finally soundiong acceptable not terribel like they did for the fisrt fifteen years of "the ultimate media".And some red book CD's sound as good as SACD's.Still there is nothing more depressing than wanmting a say Prestige LP and only having the CD otion (foget the OJC LP's.Re-melt wax combine with re-melt something that has made LP's in general suck sinc the late 60's).Thank goodness for comapines like Clasic Records which have made soemre-0issue using original tapes,stampers etc and in some cases sound as f\good as the oru\iginal LP>And then there are comanies like Mapple shade which use no board for EQ,compression, etc-no board at all just mike to tape.Then there is the Japanese comany Venus whose "24 Bit Hyper Magnum Sound" is incredible either on CD or LP.Take the terrrfic Archie Shepp Ballad LP's like "True Blue","Tru Romance' etc (four in all I think)The Lp's have a great tactile sound and warmth that only Lp's cab provide but of course you lose some of the fdynamic range you get with CD's.And all of this from digital tape so nobody can tell me that LP'scan only sound good with analogue tape-these LP's are great.I stopped running the jazz section of CD stereo equipment store 4 years ago and just before i left did CVD's start to sound "right".SACD's,DVD Audio,BlueLight or other digital formats maybe the salvation for a guy like me.But there some of my jazz Lp's that maybe got pressed in a few hundred companies and I am doubtfull all of them will make it to market.So maybe I should just borrow my freinds trumpet and play taps for my beloved hobby.The groove factor of the cover srt and it's size,finding a clean flat edge preesing with adep grove with "Rudy Van Gelder" and the little "ear mark(swirl) that indicated a fuisrt press well it's a pleasure that isn't going to vcome down the pipe that ofetn and while I like the fact that mire and mre folks seem to be digging the "New Thing" that is now 40 or 50 years old great the recent spike of LP's is just plain depressing.
Chazzbo
chazzbo
I'm sorry, but i didn't understand what the heck you were talking about____slow down, and i wouldn't pay those prices for LP's look around you can do much better, you can buy alot of new stuff at music direct or accoustic sounds for a heck of alot less than what your talking about, might not be those titles you were talking about, but you do the investageting i'm just telling you that vinyl is still reasonable. hell if i bought a record for $1500 i don't know if i'd play it or even take it out of the cover :) anyway. chill take a pill or whatever, enjoy the vinyl, even though i will agree that prices on the equiptment never ceases to amaze me.
"A fool and his money are soon parted."

Nobody forces you to buy anything.
Oh and BTW, try decaf.
I don't have a clue what you are trying to say, as I stopped reading after a few lines. Periods and paragraphs and dictionaries were all invented for very good reasons. Try one sometime, you might like it.
A part of me finds this to be very good news. I think if there is demand companies like classic will release more titles. Enjoy the hobby.
Prices reflect demand! The question I have isn't so much about competing with lunatics on ebay for the more desirable rare lps but why if this is a dying hobby why is the demand so high. Even the new offers seem out of line at $40 a pop. You just have to be patient when there is real demand supply seems to follow.
God forbid the little guys (like me) who have spent themselves into ruin in this hobby should actually MAKE MONEY on something they've purchased!
The thrift stores and used LP stores in my town still have lots of great vinyl. I have probably bought 200 LPs in the last month, all for $1 or less each (which I consider very reasonable). In that batch I even got a couple of shaded dogs and 2nd pressing Londons. I could have bought an arm load of London Blue Back opera boxes, but I am not into opera. I wish I knew someone who was so I could pick up the box sets for them. I hate to leave them in the bins to eventually be thrown out. Nobody buys opera in this town.

Chazz, don't lament about the future. Ensure your own future by buying cheap vinyl now. That way when vinyl is no longer available you will have a lifetime of listening already on your shelves. Don't worry about what you haven't got, enjoy what you have.
Wow - that's a mouthful!

But much is true, the rich are getting richer and the poor and middle class are getting poorer - and many of the rich are taking up lp collecting, especially in Asia. My brother-in-law is a dealer overseas, and I have personally sent him almost 10,000 lp's over the last 18 months that have sold at shockingly high prices compared to what I'd get here. Even here though, look at the number of asinine "Northern Soul" 45's going for hundreds of dollars. It's like the Beanie Baby fad now. In all likelihood, it'll chill down after a while and prices will stabilize, so hang in there.

Hopefully, the other thing that may happen eventually, is a digital medium that equals, or even farther out, exceeds the quality of vinyl playback. It still won't be as much fun to "collect" but it would be nice to have the alternative for those who just want to listen in near-analog peace.