The bass is the place...


Seems like that most speaker manufacturer’s are able to deliver a speaker that can, and mostly does, a reasonable job in the highs and the mids, BUT the bass is where so many fall down! This is also what most manufacturers ask big money for...the more bass capability the higher the asking price. So, we are left with, at least IMHO, most speakers that really cannot produce accurate and extended bass with any real precision. Your thoughts? Why is the bass the place?
daveyf

Showing 2 responses by oldhvymec

Swarm/DBA Duno! might be.

I use my monitor sections in a traditional way.  350 hz up planars

I use 2 Midbass units that are really the strong point of my system, WCF
12" X 2 per cabinet tuned with a 12" Passive radiator, Their tuned at 40-350hz.

I removed a lot of distortion by using and changing phase plug lengths, and profiles. Big speakers cones normally produce a lot of pressure, sound better. problem is, all that surface is a great place to collect bass at the wrong time.  38" the top of the drivers, 8 ft ceiling
In a stereo way, become very directional with phase plugs.

4  true sub units, usually only 2 at a time.  2 10", 2 12" all tuned with PR
12" tuned 20 to 40 hz,  10" are 30-60 hz , located 2ft X 3ft from the walls
None of the active drivers face each other only the passive. 3.5 cf boxed
140 lb loaded boxes.  70% decoupled from the room

8 active drivers, and 6 passive drivers, all through an Active Crossover 2494 NO DSP correction. Only crossover points. Able but not used.
350 hz down, only a passive XO  in the monitor sections, NEVER use the bass sections in the monitors.

So total of 6 units, at different heights, but a pair set up as stereo, 
kinda swarmish, sure sounds good, all class d, (now). There are no tube amps from 350 hz down, only up, and that varies in the summer months.
Love class d amps, and tubes though, just crazy good.

I also have huge french doors, with heavy curtains, swung open bass goes away, doesn't bounce back into the room

A note: I been using servo units, I just can't get use to it. different story.
All most finished on some 8" LS MB Narrow, baffle SATs. Phase plugs too.

Regards



millercarbon
3,826 posts04-16-2020 1:28pm
imo, 2-ways with sub cannot compete with a speaker using 12 inch woofers.


What if the 2 way uses a 12"?


Then you do not want to hear this. https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/8367
This will rock your world.

millercarbon your running a two way?

Am I missing something here? I’m all confused..

Regards