Well Pryso, ... I'm confused by the posts above. Don't know much about the Cary pre. But, it has been said that the ARC LS27 nips at the heels of the Ref 5 (not SE version) and ARC says it sounds better than the venerable Ref 3. Ultimately the choice is with the buyer. The LS27 ain't cheap. If possible I suggest road testing the gear before buying. Wish I could say more, but the only person who can make the call is the guy with the cash.