I love your sense of humor. Perhaps you and other readers of this thread can help here. I wonder how may feel that my statements in this thread -- please see below -- suggest or imply "Rhodium religion" and constitute a "snow job".
"I cannot compare the gold to the rhodium because I have never used the gold in my system."
"If gold works for you it works for you. If rhodium works for you it works for you."
"I have stated clearly that rhodium usually works better than gold in my system."
"I may be mistaken but I believe there is a very good reason why Furutech makes rhodium products."
"Regarding rhodium versus gold, there are no authorities here -- neither Chris VenHaus nor his customers nor anyone else. No one knows their system better than themselves. The only authorities are one's own ears."
"You see, the problem is that you cannot make rules about everyone's systems. Need I state the obvious that not all systems are alike -- so one size does not fit all. Hence, Furutech offers 2 choices to its customers -- rhodium and gold."
"Those who imply that Furutech does not know what they are doing may have underestimated Furutech."
"The obvious fact is that the proof of the pudding is in the eating, not in the talking. Some folks just happen to enjoy the taste of rhodium -- knowing that others prefer the flavor of gold."
"It may surprise some but there is room for both in the world of high end audio -- and, obviously, a need for both."
And quoted from the review:
"Any well-heeled audiophile would already know that systems are different and that one does not fit all."
"One outlet may serve a certain type of system better while the other outlet may synergize a little better with a different type of system, with final results heavily being dependent on the listener's personal tastes as well."
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Hey fellas, please stop being Hostile towards each other, this is not good for the thread, it is really a turn off to other readers that wanted to comment on anything audio, Thankyou gentleman.
Sabai, great post!, I appreciate the re-posting of the review, I have read this review many times, when I think about what it just said, I do not have a nuetral to cool system, neither nuetral to warm either, kinda in between I suppose, I am hearing the most resolute sound I have ever heard in my life anywhere, cost no object, I do not expect no one to believe this statement, does not bother me what anybody believes about what I just said, I know what I hear, The wife is up getting ready for work, I asked her what thoughts are, " A Happy medium", That's what she said, and she is a musician, with a grat ear!, so about these recepticles, I have to becareful of my choice for sure here, The main reason I am going to buy a GTX-D recepticle is not for sound at all!, that's right, not for SQ at all!, I am wanting a recepticle that can with stand a 30amp load and not melt or over heat, or down right fall to pieces under these circumstances, you guessed it, I am installing my brand new 30 amp single pole breaker that is in the bag in my utility room for MY AMPLIFIER, this way, my amp will get more current, even become more effortless, and run smoother with less heat!, the soundstage will also increase in size, not that I need any of this, but for the price of admission, why not hear what happens, I can always change it back, that is the Beauty of it all, cheers gentleman.
hey, lets all be courgial here, sorry for the spelling, I'm just some dumb person that lives in alabama!, Now laugh the both of you, outlets?, these are no more than $300.00 a piece if that, lets talk about pre-amps?, like the krell EVO 2, LOL!, that is what I need that I cannot afford right now, Ha!, then it's off to the EVO 707 proccessor for two channel use?, waite a minute, how about the krell Phantom?
One might imagine that I am the only audiophile who prefers the Furutech rhodium products to their gold products. In which case Furutech has obviously made a terrible mistake in their design. Of course, I doubt that this is the case. I am not alone in my preference. So, "in my system" obviously does not mean only in my system, and my system alone, whatever anyone else including Chris V. or others say. You see, the problem is that you cannot make rules about everyone's systems. Need I state the obvious that not all systems are alike -- so one size does not fit all. Hence, Furutech offers 2 choices to its customers -- rhodium and gold. And for a good reason. I believe this is obvious.
I believe I am not alone in my preference for Furutech rhodium. I also believe Furutech knows what they are doing. Those who imply that Furutech does not know what they are doing may have underestimated Furutech. I believe that Furutech's rhodium receptacle is right on the mark and that this fact is underlined by a well-researched review on enjoythemusic.com that covers outlets from various companies, including the Furutech rhodium.
Here is a 2-paragraph quote from the aforementioned review:
"GTX-D achieved the highest levels of both resolution and smoothness, something usually not seen together in one product. If one switched from the $1 house outlet to GTX-D, the staggering amount of previously-unheard resolution, clarity, and dynamics will likely be startling to the listener. All that extra information and energy is delivered in a defined, controlled way, without various sound bites getting out of control and ragged as can happen with lesser outlets. Bass is not overblown or obscuring; instead, it is tight, defined, and extended with energetic dynamic punch. Tiny sounds from various nooks of soundstage come alive with crystalline and pure delivery while instrument positioning, layering, and depth become effortlessly obvious. To make matters worse (?), GTX-D delivers a gorgeous, tasteful, 3-dimensional solidity in the all-important midrange without going overboard with overly round and thick presentation. This outlet is not held back by a overly "balanced" but boring presentation with polite, reticent midrange presence, either. The voices have superb reach into the room and soundstage, vivid and forward enough to be engaging while not overcooked, especially in the sibilance and presence region."
"What are the flaws? Well, Furutech must have a reason for making the gold plated version of GTX-D as well for a different flavor. Some of the Furutech vendors recommend the rhodium version for neutral to warm systems, probably with tubes, which may mean the gold version, may fit better in neutral to cool systems. Not having the GTX-D Gold in house to compare to Rhodium, it is difficult to say for sure, but going by prior experience with gold vs. rhodium plating, one might presume that GTX-D (g) might have a warmer tonality with possibly more bass quantity, albeit with less tightness. It may also have more forgiveness but not as much detail resolution. Would that make (r) version any less worthy and flawed? Any well-heeled audiophile would already know that systems are different and that one does not fit all. One outlet may serve a certain type of system better while the other outlet may synergize a little better with a different type of system, with final results heavily being dependent on the listener's personal tastes as well. Once again, there is no substitute for actually trying the product in one's own system, and for those audiophiles who are willing to pay the tariff and do the hard work, the Furutech should be on the rather short list."
The rhodium doesn't sound too shabby at all in this well-written review -- despite comments to the contrary on this forum and despite references to Chris V. and some of his customers. The obvious fact is that the proof of the pudding is in the eating, not in the talking. Some folks just happen to enjoy the taste of rhodium -- knowing that others prefer the flavor of gold. It may surprise some but there is room for both in the world of high end audio -- and, obviously, a need for both.
You are an example of the reason I referred to earlier about preferring to MP with those who are serious -- not those who use the forum to try to score brownie points.
Hi Tboooe, I do not know your budget, However, If you want the last digital cable you will ever buy?, There is a Tara Labs digital Zero Gold with HFX grounding station that retails for $7,500.00 going for $2,450.00 here on the audiogon used market in mint shape, I am sure you can shoot a little lower offer and try to buy, then you could call it the day and live happy ever after.
Audiolab, I didnt buy the HF. Its on loan from The Cable Co along with the Purist Audio Design Aqueous Aureus Luminist. These two cables are definitely different! I will post my thoughts after I listen for a bit.
I have a tube cd-player running direct to a modded krell 700cx solid state amp, looking into, perhaps krell's finest pre-amps ever made to grace my amp in the near future, my bucket list so to speak of, you guys know how this goes, Exspensive!, takes time for me to get anything it seems, that will change very soon!
Accusations should be carefully backed by the facts. In your case the facts contradict your accusations. Referring to the GTX-D I clearly stated "I cannot compare the gold to the rhodium because I have never used the gold in my system." You are accusing me of something I clearly never stated nor implied.
I have stated clearly that rhodium usually works better than gold in my system. This refers to both my ss and tube based systems. I have also used Furutech rhodium-plated spades and preferred them to most gold-plated spades used on speaker wires from different companies. I may be mistaken but I believe there is a very good reason why Furutech makes rhodium products.
Regarding rhodium versus gold, there are no authorities here -- neither Chris VenHaus nor his customers nor anyone else. No one knows their system better than themselves. The only authorities are one's own ears. If gold works for you it works for you. If rhodium works for you it works for you.
By the way, unless I am mistaken I think that Audiolabyrinth can speak for himself.
Melbguy1, I believe sabai is sharring his exsperience with IEC's, which BTW are made different than the recepticles, The GTX-D as you said is pure copper at the base metal, then plated with Rhodium or gold, David, to mass the confussion more, I researched these recepticles more on audiogon past threads of the GTX-D recepticles, there seemed to be alot of members that had gold and went to Rhodium with satisfying results, However, the ones that did had tube equipment, to bad we cannot rent these things like cables and find whats best for our paticular systems, that would be great wouldnt it david?
calvinj, no, not yet, thanks for reminding me, I will today, did you look a few post up from these, I have a couple of post there for you here on this thread, happy listening.
Audiolabyrinth did not state that he has ss gear. He stated he wanted my opinion on ss gear and I gave it.
I have clearly stated why I want to chat privately about this. What could possibly be the problem with using this service provided by Audiogon?
My observations may be "incongruent" with the observations of others. This does not negate their validity. No one has more experience with my system than me. Frankly, I never worry too much about what others say. I always trust my own ears. After all, they are not listening to my system.
I should point out that this is the sound of the system -- not the sound of the rhodium. I can say that the rhodium makes the sound much more natural and pleasing to the ears than the gold. Of course, this is system dependent.
Thankyou so much for your reply, I am confused here, I am happy that I have not made my purchase yet, I will Pm you as you asked, so be looking for the mail, Confused is because Chris Vanhause clearly has stated that the Rhodium is best for tube amps and pre-amps, Do you know in your opinon, Is Rhodium better sounding to you on top solid state equipment?, You have been a great asset to us all, nothing like asking those who have lived with a product over time, Reply when you can, Happy listening.
calvinj, you are asking a fair price for your version of the Tara labs, The One interconnect, but your description of your title of what it is is NOT Correct, this is NOT a ISM on board cable, the ISM on board means small amounts of ceralex inside of a cylinder that is on each interconnect is ON the cable its self, in the signal path, the correction on your title should read, The One interconnect with componet grounding, that is it, thats what it is, hope this helps.
Hi Calvinj, I did not want to post this on the thread where I normally find you, I am glad you adjusted you claasified sales of your cable, However, This is real important what I am about to tell you here, The model, The one that you are selling is a version that has only the componet ground, which is 100% inferrior to the model, The one with HFX grounding station, The HFX grounding station has componet grounding and floats the shield, and filters RFI/EMI through the ceralex material inside the grounding station, the componet grounding scheme you had with your cable does not have ceralex, nor does it filter RFI/EMI, That box that you had was the cheapest atternative Tara labs presented back years ago if a customer could not afford the box that said, Tara labs, This box is not a HFX grounding station, The original grounding station that said Tara Labs on it only was a grounding station with less Ceralex material inside and without componet grounding capabilitys, so there were 3 versions of the grounding stations for this cable, what I am also saying is that you never heard the performance capability of the Tara Model called, The One, no where near it's potential!
Thanks Melbguy1, your logic is precisely why I am leaning towards Rhodium. My Sonus Faber Evolution monitors are on the warm side of neutral so I dont want to go further with the Gold.
When you stated "Everyone's system is different, so ultimately you'd have to make the call on what is right for you", you hit the nail on the head. Nobody can make rules for your system, especially if it includes anything at all unconventional. You have to experiment and make the call regarding what works, what does not work, and what works best.
Beyond my tube amp and preamp -- simply listing components will not do much to describe how my system sounds, and why it sounds as it does, because I used a daisy-chained front end and I run cables in series. These are kinds of things you don't often hear about, but that can attract a lot of negative attention here. So, I don't really like to go into things on the forum. You can MP me for more information.
Sorry but I beg to differ. You can "go wrong" with either in my system. There is in fact a "drastic difference" between them in my system. Gold was a step down, not a step up in my system.
Audiolabyrinth,
The rhodium is not forward sounding in my system. I have a tube amp and tube preamp. I would not believe everything "they say" about rhodium.
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