SUT Opinions

Sorry, old post you are responding to and I no longer have that set up.

@cfarrow: the Miyajima has 38db from the phono stage--is there more gain from the line stage?

@cfarrow  : Enjoy that SPU.

R.

Thanks for all the advice, using Hashimoto with it.

Dear @cfarrow  : What other audiophiles can tell you about SUTs are good opinions of the SUT performance is a way different room/system. 

My take is to go with the Ortofon ST-80SE, Ortofon is not a " new comer " to SUTs, they manufactured from vuintage one times along its LOMC cartridges as the MC30 or MC2000.

The ST-80SE will mates very good with your  Ortofon LOMX cartridge.

You have to care a little on the cartridge low compliance to mate it with the rigth tonearm/headshell combination.

R.

I've used about 10 different SUTs and phono amps (like Ortofon MCA-76 and Denon HA-1000), and Live! MC10 SUT works best for me.
It has Hashimoto HM-3 transformer. It is paired with Magi Phonomenal phono preamp and they work very well for my Ortofon SPU cartridges, Denon DL103r, and low output Ortfon MC cartridges (output less than 0.1mV).
I recently purchased Allnic H-1202 and I can tell that they are very close and the difference between two are not readily noticeable. The biggest difference is, H-1202 is much quieter.
If you are seriously considering an SUT, Live! MC10 may work well. It supports two different levels of output.

Just tried it out and volume pot at 3 o’clock to get to level to where I normally listen and interesting feedback coming through similar to a howling noise(not like a dog:)
I have some old in line Sony SUT’s that I am using now until I find the SUT and didn’t get that and also 10 O’clock on the volume pot is plenty loud and I believe they are 26db SUT.

Raul,

My sentence was missing a "not"

Dear @jperry  @cfarrow  : So the 3 inputs in the EC-5 are MM and only 38db gain?

@jperry  , you posted:

""  The MM inputs in the OPs preamp will provide adequate gain for the 0.2mv output on that SPU ""

and latter on you posted that needs a SUT : " .  you need additional gain".

What am I missing?  Thank's.

R.

The Miyajima makes since to pair with the preamp, I am also considering a Hashimoto as I had fantastic results when I used it with my Koetsu’s.  I was looking for SPU owners to get a feel for what success they had/have with SPU’s they were or are currently using.
I have a new Aururosound Vida sitting in a box new that I have but hate to open it up when a good SUT into the Miyajima will give me what I am looking for sound wise.

OP, you need additional gain, which is why I recommended the Miyajima SUT (I also own one) to go with your Miyajima preamp

Those were my thoughts so that’s why I made the initial response.  Thx for the feedback.  

Yes, it will work - but will suffer from high noise level and limited dynamic range! This I learned from experience! Get a good SUT! I have five, including a Mike Sanders (Quicksilver) to use with my various LOMC'S.

38db from the MM stage provides enough gain for a .2mv cartridge? 

Dear @jperry  : I knew thaT AND THAT'S PRECISEILY WHY i'M ASKING HIM.

R.

Raul,

The MM inputs in the OPs preamp will provide adequate gain for the 0.2mv output on that SPU

Dear @cfarrow  : Why do you think or want a SUT? Do you already test the SPU in your EC-5?

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.

Given that you have a Miyajima preamp you should consider this. I have one and you can accommodate a wide range of cartridges including your SPU.

http://www.miyajima-lab.com/etr-stereo.html

There is 38db from the mm phono pre in the EC-5.

What about GAIN on your Miyajima Preamp , there are 3 phono inputs as I can see.

"The right photograph is a changeover switch of the input impedance of B and C.

B : 600～47kΩ
C : 600～100kΩ

An impedance matching improves by matching the impedance of the pre-amp to the impedance of a cartridge and the step-up transformer. When impedance is unclear, please choose 47kΩ."