Sub stand?

I don't have a subwoofer any longer but am curious as to how one would sound atop Timken bearings. I recently put these between my loudspeakers and the floor and the results have been outstanding. You can purchase them locally in many instances.

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I always used Timken bearings when racing my SCCA Sprite in H production. Great bearings.

2" thick slab of granite which rests on spikes into cups on a wooden floor...there is a towel between the spikes/slab and the wooden floor, too..works very well to tighten up the bass

Tom,

Have you tried Timkens under your speakers? They replaced Audio Points in my system. ;-)

Timken Part #
LM11910 & 09067

They are incredible under speakers and I bet they would sound great under a sub.

Where do you find Timkens?

I have a store called Bearings & Drives located in my city. I am not really sure what this type of business is called.

On Audio Asylum I made mention that Timkens don't seem to like contact with Maple. This has proven to be an erroneous conclusion.

One thing to note about the Timkens for the uninitiated is that they form a stationary footer and do not move at all as you would assume a bearing would do. Also, if you try this be sure you know that the Timken part numbers are purposely mismatched. The bearing vendor may point this out, but the part numbers mentioned are correct.

One last thing, I like using the Timkens in conjunction with small DH Cones. They provide more "snap" to the presentation.

This tweak was pointed out to me by Ric Cummins of Room Lens fame. For use under electronics he recommends placing Timken assembly atop a granite slab and 2"X2" plexiglas/posterboard/plexiglas footers. I haven't tried this yet myself.

The Timken assembly photo I posted on Audio Asylum includes O-rings which I added to the mix.

Would a nut and bolt store have these? And how much are they? Which DH cones do you use with them?

I doubt you would ever find these at a standard hardware store. They are definitely worth going out of your way to find. There is a specific "Small" DH Cone size. Were you able to see my photo at AA? My cones are older and of a different color than the current model. These I believe sell for $20 per set of three. I paid about $45 per 3 pc set for the Timkens, so it will cost you approximately $65 for one set under your subwoofer.

Please let me know how these work out for you in this application if you give it a go. If they don't work there I am pretty sure you will find a component that will benefit from their use. In fact I am pretty sure that the more of these that find their way into your system, the better your system will sound. One thing I am positive about is the Timkens under floor standing loudspeakers are quite effective. I also have a set between my DAC and transport which has proveen to be an effective location.

Alright on the DH Cones I can get those easy. Im just looking for those bearings. Im going to have to call around.

Wellfed, I haven't tried any bearings under my stuff, but it sounds like a cool idea.

From what I can gather, it makes a multi-point solid coupling to the speaker base(with each ball in the bearing making a coupling point, in a circular arrangement).

What happens if there is a carpeted room? I imagine that you'd need some kind of point under it for this use.

Tom, my setup is on oak flooring. I posted a fuzzy photo of the assembly at AA, the link is shown above. You might have to right-click on the photo holder and choose view image.

They were downright frustrating for me initially as I was trying to use them in conjunction with Machina Dynamica Promethean bases. I have since found out that anything that resonates is not compatible as part of the Promethean assembly. One could see their huge potential, but there were too many drawbacks.

Used simply under my loudspeakers they work quite well. I do not find them to be linear, but they sound so good I am willing to accept some drawbacks. They are perhaps too smooth, but inserting the small DH Cones returned some of the "snap".

These unusual footers were brought to my attention by Ric Cummins at Rosinante.

Tom, my setup is on oak flooring. I posted a fuzzy photo of the assembly at AA, the link is shown above. You might have to right-click on the photo holder and choose view image.

They were downright frustrating for me initially as I was trying to use them in conjunction with Machina Dynamica Promethean bases. I have since found out that anything that resonates is not compatible as part of the Promethean assembly. One could see their huge potential, but there were too many drawbacks.

Used simply under my loudspeakers they work quite well. I do not find them to be linear, but they sound so good I am willing to accept some drawbacks. They are perhaps too smooth, but inserting the small DH Cones returned some of the "snap".

These unusual footers were brought to my attention by Ric Cummins at Rosinante. They have proven to be fascinating, engigmatic, frustrating, and above all else, most effective.