sub for $3500 or less

I just don't understand anyone buying a sub today other that a Velodyne DD series. Okay, maybe some other sub, but mating it with the Velodyne SMS-1 or other room correction system should be a must.

Knollbrent, regardless of how good the Piega is, there is nothing in the Piega that is going to fix the bass peaks in your room from the Piega sub. And you will definitely have them!

I have a DD-12 in my 2 channel setup and I had always fought bass issues in my room. The digital room correction in the DD-12 has given me incredibly powerful and fast bass without any boom. It only took me about an hour and a half to use the room correction right out of the box. I couldn't believe the peaks in the curve when I first hooked up the DD-12. But the room correction software has given me a virtually flat response down to 22 hz. They have a free upgrade (I haven't bothered) that has an "automatic" correction mode which would make things even easier and quicker to use if one chose to use it.

I realize that there are many good subs available, but the ROOM can make even the best sub sound bad. I am sure the Peiga sub would be fine with your c-10 ltds, but believe me, you will never get out of the Piega sub what a DD series will do for you (unless you use a SMS-1 or other room correction.) Just my humble opinion.

"i would think a sub with a msrp of $5000 has the tuning abilities that dd series has..."

The Piega sub won't begin to approach the tuning abilities of the DD series. Either you didn't do your homework or you didn't understand what you were reading. I hate to be so blunt, but the Velodyne is light years ahead of the Piega in terms of "room tuning". That's not to say the Piega will not be a good sub and that you might not enjoy it, but it will never approach a "room tuned" sub.

And I am not sure why you even came in here and asked for advice. It seems you already had your mind made up when you made your first post on 6/27. You asked for advice and then report on 6/29, two days later, that you were buying a Piega sub from the same guy who sold you your other equipment. Why bother wasting people's time here. Next time just listen to the guy who is **trying to sell you something** to begin with.

You missed the point. But now I understand why you bought the Piega.

Enjoy your sub... "dude".

Goat, if I don't hear from Dad soon, I'll just call you.