STREAMING - QOBUZ VS TIDAL AND ROON'S PREFERENCES


I am 100% digital using Roon.  I play from my extensive hard drive, Qobuz and Tidal.  I love to find new music using Roon Radio or Roon suggestions.  Here is my issue:  I generally find Qobuz to sound better on my system.  I do not have final unfold of MQA on my Tambaqui DAC; yet ROON always defaults to a Tidal version.

So I will search 'versions' and select the highest resolution of a Qobuz version.

Can Roon be set to default to Qobuz vs defaulting to a Tidal version?

Do others agree that Qobuz sounds better?

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Showing 4 responses by moonwatcher

Doesn't Deezer provide "bit-perfect" data?  At least at CD quality? I'd rather have CD quality that way than higher resolution files that have snake oil done to them. Is there anyway for us to know?  Has anyone with proper equipment ever done a comparison between the steaming services to find out?  We know Spotify's lossy streams are obviously NOT CD quality. I wasted all last year on their lossless service to roll out.  Ended up quitting them in February and will NEVER go back due to their lying. Do any of the others advertize "bit-perfect"? Qobuz? 

@kray thank you. I may have to give Qobuz a try then. Just wish there was a "Qobuz Connect" app that streamers could have. Such an app makes life much easier when you can pass off the stream.  Maybe one day...

@ghdprentice I read a posting on another forum by a guy (a musician) who had uploaded his files to Deezer and then downloaded them and he found they were indeed "bit-perfect" without any mumbo-jumbo changes.  Perhaps Qobuz is the same. 

I like Tidal's interface and catalog just fine, (and the Tidal Connect app which is being supported by more streamers) but I've read where the Hi-Fi tier of CD quality often gets you files that had MQA but with it stripped out. They sound OK, but are not "bit-perfect". 

I love my CD player and will always use it as long as it lasts, but streaming is a great tool for music discovery and general listening.  Would be nice to know exactly what we are getting for our money from the various services - and if they are altering the music in any way. Thanks. I'll give Qobuz a try soon. 

@cleeds

Indeed files altered with MQA are not "bit-perfect". That was Neil Young’s issue with the way they were advertising his music. If they were altered in anyway, then they weren’t HIS "studio masters". I wish MQA would go away. There’s been lots of discussion regarding it and most technical people (engineers) who have tested it with measuring equipment says that it does alter the files, and most damning, they say only a bat could hear the sight difference. And people can argue all day if the difference is somehow "better" than the original.

If Tidal is selling their CD quality Hi-Fi tier and providing downsampled files with MQA stripped out then yeah, they might sound OK (and they do) but once again, they aren’t "bit-perfect" compared to the commercially released Redbook CD.

High resolution files don’t mean much to me unless they were recorded originally in DSD. (When I record live concerts to put on the Internet Live Music Archive I do use 24-bit/48Khz PCM to push down the noise floor a bit). I’m happy with CD quality for everything else, (hence my disdain for Spotify lying to us all last year). I just wish I could get the same "data" exactly as it would be from a commercially released Redbook CD of the same title.

If Deezer or Qobuz provides that, I’ll be a happy camper. Looking forward to trying Qobuz.

I note in Qobuz's advertising blurb on their website:  "Currently, Qobuz has more than 240,000 albums in Hi-Res audio quality. This collection is constantly being added to with new releases and re-issues. In addition, Qobuz offers over 80 million tracks in lossless CD quality."