Streaming + DAC questions. Please help this noob!


Hi Guys,

After a couple of decades avoiding the desire to become an audiophile . . . here I am. I've jumped head first and purchased the following:

Bryston BP 20 preamp
Bryston 4B SST amp
B&W 801 Matrix II

I'm actively avoiding becoming a vinyl collector (too many hobbies, not enough physical space, etc etc), so most of my music will be from Spotify. I know they aren't the greatest quality . . . but for the sake of ease and variety and modernity, that's what I'm using. My 'hub' would be an imac sitting 10 feet away from the hifi system. I'd like to control from that computer since that's where I'm sitting most of the day. 

At first, I had hoped to be able to connect via bluetooth adapter directly into preamp and that sounded horrible. (Lesson #1). I then tried with an Audioquest Beetle and that sounded pretty good. I also tried an ipad direct into the preamp and that's OK, too (not as good as with Beetle). But it's clear to me I probably need a dedicated DAC (Lesson #2). So my questions:

1. Whats the best way to use Spotify connect via my Imac? Should I dedicate the ipad to sit on top of the hifi? I also have an old macbook pro that could sit on the hifi and be the connected hardware. The beetle worked fine, but I don't want my computer sounds to come out of my hifi system, only Spotify. 

2. My head is spinning with DAC info. It seems like I can't go wrong with a $99 Schiit, but I'd rather just buy right the first time. Happy to spend up to 1k (used is definitely ok with me) on a DAC that I can just forget about. Did I mess up by not getting an integrated preamp/dac? 

I come to you guys with humility and ready for Lessons 3 thru infinity.
128x128quesofrito
Hi,  I like many here, started my digital journey with a Mac, and then upgraded to a Bluesound node (2).  Nice interface and Streamer + DAC.  but, as many have also said, not the best DAC for High resolution.  But it is good.  You have bought nice stuff with the Bryston. I agree with streaming Tidal or Quobuz.  And I use Roon.  but I have graduated to nicer Dac's / Streamers, and I can easily hear the improvement.  I have two nice systems, one PS Audio with the PS Audio Direct Stream DAC with Bridge Streamer installed. Very Nice, on sale now, and they continually upgrade the coding to improve it.  My second DAC is an Auralic Vega 2 streamer / DAC.  Also excellent, probably more resolving but in a different (say less vinyl sounding?) way.  Still, at 600 the Bluesound is a safe start.  I have sold mine.  BTW, I have two other Bluesound units (as both are Roon endpoints).  One is a Pulse speaker in my bedroom, and the other a Powernode in a studio.  They work extremely well in this arena.  Thanks,  Ken
Stereophile will expand your inquiries regarding DACs.  I occasionally use for background music, or to find something new in Jazz so I then can purchase a quality cd. Traveling, I run my iphone through the car audio- typically listening to music from my  iTunes library.  At home, with serious and enjoyable audio, I'd rather plop in a well-produced cd, sacd, itc., using excellent electronics, and speakers.  Streaming reminds me of the period when FM was rapidly being contaminated by "canned" music navigated by dorky djs. It was largely scripted and hugely annoying. I find it another manifestation of the need for immediate gratification via mediocrity.
FYI: If you have a Sirius/XM subscription for your car, you can also stream it from your portable devices for free. I am streaming it from both my Iphone and Ipad Touch directly into my DAC thru the USB port, and from there on to my McIntosh preamp.The sound quality is wonderful, and you get a gazillion channels. At no extra cost.
Hi @quesofrito,  I hope you're having fun improving the listening experience. There seems to always be further to go, but certain initial steps in the system are huge. You can usually get a free period to test Tidal. The jump from lower res spotify, apple, etc. to CD+ quality is noticeable to me for sure. I use the Schiit modi multibit. There is an online debate between the founder of Schiit and nerds with oscilloscopes about it, but I love it. I also use a Mac (Mini) as the streamer through the DAC to a Freya preamp. There is a lot of discussion on this site about the value of dedicated streamers vs. computers, but again, the first steps make big differences. Good luck!
@peterf6 thanks! just received a bluesound node in the mail and i'm waiting on a DAC to get here. gotta get testing!