Stillpoints under a turntable?


Are any of you using stillpoint mini's under your TT? How's it working?
Thanks
schiss

Showing 4 responses by tirebiter

Thanks Steve, Yes the cabinet is a bit of a sore spot. Originally had it custom built 8 years ago when we moved into this house to hide all of the wires and boxes...a requirement of my better half. Not a big deal back then because I had not yet resurrected a Thorens TD 160 I have been carting around with me for nearly 45 years and was digital only. 

My options are somewhat limited but have resolved to experiment a bit by moving the VPI and B-Lab pre to a somewhat nearby granite counter-top and see what I hear. It can't be a long term solution but at least will tell me one way or the other what direction I need to go. I should ask now, do you think the Stillpoints have any sort of chance of helping given the current configuration or would I be chasing my tail? I haven't quite come to terms with the logic of installing what seems to me to be semi solid connections between the the base and the TT.

So the two items that don't sit in or on the cabinet are the Lamm ML2.1 monoblocks. A big step up from anything I had tried before and they drive a pair of Avantgarde Duo Grosso horns quite nicely. Going back to vinyl has only enhanced that experience!

Brock
@slaw 

Good to see you are active here....!

VPI has a reputation for many iterations of pieces and parts and have to say, I am not sure what feet your tables came with. My TNT came with "upgraded" elephant feet. I believe they are the newer version with sorbathane cushions as opposed to the springs or bladder systems. That still says rubber of sorts in they system so I may have to go on a mission to find some Ultras...

I do really like the Mk V platter, it has been a good upgrade. I am still betting the ceramic bearing is a big improvement to go along with the platter itself. 

Good luck with the shelf, I would venture to guess that it has been well thought out. I am afraid that my setup may be suffering a bit because of the cabinet I am using to support my TT as well as house electronics (other than my Lamms). It is heavy oak with 1 1/4" thick top but know some vibration is induced. Thus I have placed a 24" by 32" by 1" piece of granite slab on it for the TT to sit on. I have some absorbent material between the slab and oak but when I apply the tap test to the oak, some vibration does bleed through. A never ending quest....
@slaw 

@stringreen 

Based on the discussion thus far concerning Stillpoints and please correct me if I am wrong, I get the impression that the idea behind them is to dissipate vibration from the TT to the stand and is why you maintain that rubber between the stand and the TT is a bad idea, correct?

If that is the case, my problem stems from basically both directions. I have vibration that should be dissipated to the base via rubber-less feet but also have vibration from my cabinet that I want to protect my TT from.

So what I did today was purchase 3 squash balls that I placed under the granite slab in a effort to isolate the slab and TT from the cabinet. I guess you could say that I now have air suspension between the slab and the oak top.

And the TT passed my first test, the tap test, where I place a record on the TT, do not start the motor then drop the stylus onto the record. I then lightly tap the plinth, granite and then the oak top. As is logical, the tap on the plinth is audible as is the granite but to a lesser degree. Before Squash Balls, tapping on the oak top was audible and now it is not. So it seems to me that I have made some progress. I did a quickie listing test and my tell there is clarity of voices in complex music. I use the Rolling Stones "Get Your Ya Ya's Out" for that purpose. If I can clearly discern Mick and the lyrics then I feel I have made progress. That was clearly the case this afternoon.

So am I correct on my thinking concerning how Stillpoints work? @stringreen, I am thinking that you were looking for the same sort of mechanism by using the Bearpaws....