Speakers sound too bright.


I just bought a new pair of Martin Logan 60xti speakers.  They are too bright and fatiguing.  I would like to avoid returning them.  I've tried toeing them in and out.  I cant get them further than 1ft away from the wall (back of speaker to wall).  I have a about 1-2 hrs of play time on them.  Not sure if break in will help settle the upper frequencies down. Any suggestions...?

rwalsh07

Im gonna take a guess and say the problem in this room is they are a dipole sending tons of energy (50% of its total output) on the wall behind the speakers. This energy is reflected back into the listening space with a delay that is created by the distance from the speaker to the wall behind them and then back again. This delayed HF is being added back to the non delayed main output from the front of the speaker all of it summed together at your ear. This is the same issue when we talk about first reflections: the same sound taking two different length paths to your ear is a sure way to mess up any speaker. Usually the top end is the most offensive as we are very senstive to this information. I bet if we measured phase in the room it would be severely messed up by this major reflection.

Dipoles are wonderful but very challenging -you need large spaces to make them sing. Id say this room is not right for a dipole. Nearly impossible to fix in too small a space sorry to say!

Brad

 

Swap in  a pair or 2 of Jps Labs Super Conductor series 1 interconnects

Will tame them down,

Dont overspend on this If you do not like them return them

I had the ML 15i and didn't find it bright but I tend to favor speakers some find brighter for whatever reason.   Had Focals if that tells you something and have a variety of others that most would not call dark or warm.

Although they were very articulate and voices semed natural with good control of sibilance and very suitable for movies, they couldn't convey space/spatial effects well in soundtracks and sounded a bit unnatural and perhaps fatiguing with music particularly instruments for me. 

I blamed this not on the tweeter but the Alum woofer that for some reason I do not seem to like.  I tried alot of speakers with Alum drivers, some better for my tastes than others but all sold or returned, regardless of the great discounts I received.

I would say if they are bothering you, either you can sell them or if returnable, then do so.  Some well liked speakers by most do not work for all. 

As for myself, I seem to like paper/treated and/or polypropylene woofers better regardless if the tweeter it soft/metal/AMT, etc.  Metal infused drivers seem to much in certain ways for me.  Even if it is made to sound refined, it still seems off for me.  Exciting yes, overall listenable...not so much, but that's me.

 

 

 

@larry5729 if you don't have any constructive suggestions then keep them to yourself.  We are not here to berate the guy.