I am new to this, so please bare with me. I always thought 12 gauge speaker wire, bare on each end, was best. But there is Kimber, Nord, etc, that seem to be incrementally better! Can I buy the components and put together my own $17000 speaker wires? If so, where can they be purchased, and which are good enough to be used? Which terminations are best for sound? Which wire? Length? Guage?
For $50 I bought off Amazon 10 ft of Sky High Car Audio 8 gauge (yes, I said 8 gauge. It’s thick) OFC speaker cable and monoprice banana plugs. It sounds very good, I mean competitive with some $800 runs I have.
I think many of us here if here to learn and share about DIY stuff with regards to our audios. As long as we are learning we should keep on trying. As we try new things, we discover new knowledge and skills, and that's the best part of it. We can the share what we have learned to others.
You mean a can of electrons, don’t you GK? Tell us how they flow...cause I really wanna know...I really wanna know ..know..know..know...how they do!! See what I did there...used a WHO motif and stuff? Pretty cool right?
My Kimber cables came today. I have one speaker run with Kimber, one with regular old lampcord speaker wire. I honestly don't hear any difference. Both ends of the kimbers are banana clips. They just slide into the hole, yes? Not into the hole in the threaded post?
The electrons are simply the charge carriers. And they are virtually not moving. They are not the music and they are not the signal. Oh, did I just give you the answer? Ps I’m going out on a limb here saying you probably don’t remember a single thing from your textbooks. You have one more guess. Better make it a good one.
I know the electrons carry the charge (EF) across an electrical potential through the circuit at near TSOL. Electrons do get exchanged very slowly as well, but I see your point. As Spock would say, it’s Pure Energy!
If it’s true the “audio signal” in cables and wire and fuses is simply (alternating) voltage and current, I.e., not a music waveform, what is the distortion in cables, etc.? Is it voltage and current distortion?
Hhhhhhhhhhh... Anyone else not hear a difference between (brown/black 4 wire) kimbers and regular old speaker wire? I will say, the radio stations are all a bit staticy where I live. Maybe I should pair my CD player with the system? Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Voltage changes? I always thought everything effects the signal however...cable purity, EMF noise, insulation, equipment quality and matching, Quantum fluctuations in the space time continuum etc...🙄
Right, everything affects the “signal.” But the signal is not the music, remember from last class? The only things in the cable or wire that can be affected are voltage and current. Could I be wrong?
Then what is the music great one? Is it the fluctuations between the inter dimensional exchange of strings during their quantum superpositions as they react to changing Voltage and Current within and between audio components?
Music is not what emerges from the speakers although it is frequently colloquially thought of it in that way.
Music is your perception, mostly in your head. The end of that "music line" is (possibly) chemically-affected electrical charges, I think. Voltage, or whatever else gets into play there.
Before that, it is just "movement" of the medium between speakers and your nerves.
In space no one can hear you scream. Is a violinist making music if no one is there to hear it? Music is defined as the sound a musical instrument or speaker makes. Duh! 😳
gentlemen, that is great, you're very funny... But do you have any opinions on the question that I posed here? Thank you for hijacking my thread with your hilarity, much appreciated. But if we could get back on track...
Let me be clear about this...I am not a DIY’r! For me, and drawing from my own experiences, wire is wire unless it has a box or a network on it. No matter how many types of cable designs I’ve used or experimented with, none have performed more gloriously than Transparent or MIT! The tonal balance, dynamic range and oodles of pure, unforced low level detail, simply can’t be equaled by any other manufacturer...at IMHO!
Trying to straighten out audiophiles is like trying to herd cats. That’s why these cable threads have been going on for forty years with pretty much the same results. I reckon if networks was the answer every cable manufacturer and his brother would be using networks. Audiophiles tend to have very strong preconceived notions of wires and cables. Even the OP has a few.
ieales, If you can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen. Don’t you have an opinion on cables? I didn’t think so. just a lot of hot air. That would make you the troll. Moroncity indeed.
"But do you have any opinions on the question that I posed here?"
Ooops, sorry, we did not think you were serious. Cable threads inevitably evolve into chat rooms for socializing and have not brought any conclusion yet.
"Can I buy the components and put together my own $17000 speaker wires?"
It may be possible, but it may cost you as much.
"If so, where can they be purchased..."
This may be a wrong place to ask. The best would be to call Kimber and Nord, or whoever makes those $17 000 cables, and ask if they would sell you wire and connectors separately so you can assemble them yourself.
"...and which are good enough to be used?"
You already seem to like Kimber and Nord, why not start with them? For $17 000 cables, you may need to buy exactly that wire to be able to build them yourself. Same goes for connectors.
It is next to impossible for any of us, or probably anybody, to answer how to fake an identical copy of the cables you want.
"Is a violinist making music if no one is there to hear it?"
Unless it is a deaf violinist, there is someone there to hear it so she/he is making music. Assuming she/he did not just start practicing, If she/he did just start, it is probably far from music. Which depends on your perception. Voltage, chemicals, etc.
Gentle readers, here we witness in plain view audiophile axiom No. 5 - knowledge is what’s left after you subtract out all the fluff you forgot from school.
This thread is at risk of slowly evolving into one of those discussing legal, ethical, performance, and a few more implications of buying potential knock-off cables on eBay.
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