Speaker Road Trip


So in my last post I was asking opinions on three very different types of speakers; the Volti Razz, Tannoys and Magnepans. As I live in the sticks there's not a lot of opportunity to hear many products; there's not a hi fi place within four hours and then the selection is very limited. 

Many of you told me I needed to hear these things beforehand if possible so I packed up wife, aging mom and our five month old lab pup and hit the road. I drove from the very tip of the mitt in Michigan to Nashville. I chose Nashville as there was a shop with Tannoy, one with Magnepan and the Volti's are made nearby. For some reason I thought they were made in Franklin, Tn which is half an hour south of Nashville. Turns out it was an hour and a half east so the one day I had planned turned into two.

I went to Volti and Greg Roberts was there as I had informed him of my wish. He gave me a tour of the facility where all the magic happens and I was very impressed. It's a one man operation and it's a very professional facility. We proceeded from the tour and a glimpse of his Rival speakers which are quite a bit larger than the Razz to his future living area which is separated by a covered walkway. This area stores most of his components and parts and where he and his wife live though as of now it's not quite finished. It also showcases the Volti Vittori's which are massive and beautiful.

We were ushered into an unfinished room where he had a rig set up along with the Razz. My wife and I were seated center and he proceeded to demonstrate. I was floored by the sound and the imaging these big horns have. Vocals were sublime and everything delivered satisfyingly. I heard a bit of the shouty that some speak of when they talk horns. I attribute this to the fact that the room was unfinished, concrete floors, unfinished drywall and very little as far as furniture and absorption. I only stream at home so I didn't bring anything as far as reference material but he had the ability to stream and played some things to demonstrate their capability but I only heard one thing that I was intimately familiar with as my wife was getting a little impatient as we were running out of time. We had decided to leave our pup at a local vets for day boarding as it was 94 out and with an hour and a half drive to get her before they closed time was limited.

The next morning I was met by the owner of a high end home theater/ 2 channel shop that carried Magnepans. He demonstrated the 3.7s driven by Bryston gear. I was impressed as I had never heard them before and they certainly sounded great but I don't know how to describe what it was about them. Something for me seemed to be missing, it may have been the fact that I couldn't pinpoint the source of what I'm hearing which was unfamiliar. Ultimately I decided they weren't for me, especially after he suggested I would have to think about adding monoblocks to my Parasound Halo integrated which would have driven up my cost considerably. I also had a fear my cats would think they'd make a dandy scratching post though they haven't done so with other towers.

He carried a couple of different lines however and one of these happened to be Dali. He had a pair of Opticon 5s hooked up and just for s^&ts and giggles I gave them a listen. They really impressed me enough to want to hear the Opticon 8 that he had marked down to make way for the new Opticon 8mks. He was kind enough to take these out of the boxes and hook them up. They did everything right for me to the point it created quite a dilemna for me as I was leaning towards the Volti's.

My concern with the Volti's ultimately is listener fatigue. It could have been the unfinished room, it could have been their size verses my room size. I need to talk more with him on this matter. I think overall they are a better speaker than the Dali's but this observation could be biased by my like for Greg and my wanting them to be THE ONES.

Go with your gut right? The Dali's really checked all my boxes. These are a demo pair that he's knocking $500 off current list plus shipping so about a $300 savings. He says he will let me return them less a $200 restocking fee if they don't work in my room or a store credit. I've found a used pair listed about a 3 hour drive from me that are 9/10 in his opinion that I can get for $1500 but there wouldn't be any return of course.

Advice?
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@ebm that's pretty ambiguous! Of course there are better speakers out there but I don't have better speaker out there kind of money. What do you speak of? I just recently bought a pair of 1980s Klipsch Heresy's that I came across so I could familiarize with horns more and listen in my room. They were quite a step up in SQ over the much newer B & W bookshelves I was using. So much so that it lead me to the Volti's.
@peter_s I'm leaning that direction as I will also have some support if needed.
@jond The Dalis were Bryston, not sure on the Volti's but my unit is SS and he had tubes which he hinted were something I should look at in the future, another consideration for the pro-con list.
@audiotroy  that's one of the things that amazed me about them. I had been outside briefly while he hooked them up. It was only after listening and the holographic imaging they created and then really looked at them that I discovered they weren't even optimally placed as they were faced haphazardly and one set forward of the other quite a bit. This made me drool a bit when I knew how much better they would be placed properly. With them I still have some hesitancy about their size. They are recommended for big rooms and I don't consider mine to be at 12x25.
@audioquest4life  the bookshelves just didn't fill the room or 'push the air'. Because you mentioned the T1.5 I had to see what they were and know why you like them! Those sound incredible even over crappy laptop speakers and they are astoundingly beautiful! Alas! Unless I have an unknown rich relative who loves me or win the lottery they are certainly out of my atmosphere. Grand Rapids is still mostly sane but I like it more where there are dramatically less people. From what I saw there are a couple if hi fis in GR but very limited lines. Thanks and good luck.
@ebm I was sincerely asking for suggestions as I have not bought anything as of yet.
@oldaudiophile I chose Nashville because the Volti's are mfg there nearby, there was a dealer who carried Tannoy (out of stock) and another with the Magnepans. I had not considered Dali's. The Dali's had been used as a demo pair previously then reboxed. Admittedly room conditions weren't optimal but are they any better at shows? 
@kren0006 Wife liked the Volti's as she said it felt like your are sitting right in front of the orchestra pit but then added "it's right in your face" which we both think may be tiring. It's such a hard thing because they sounded so sweet! 
@wolf_garcia I think the Volti's are designed very well but the room was poor. If I could throw 5k at something to see if they sounded right in my room I'd choose them. I agree with your assessment about generalizations however.
@arcticdeath That sucks about the CVs. I have to find something that will present RUSH properly!

@elliotnewcombjr I know I may regret not going with the Volti's now but I think I'm going with the Dali's. I have secured a return on them if I don't find them right in room and if that's the case I will take the Volti leap. 
@hshifi Thank you for letting me know your experience with them and how much you enjoy them. I think they'll be great! I do listen to a lot of different things but classic rock is the main course. I think these will be delicate when they need to be and forceful when demanded. Chicago was a bit off the path but maybe if there's a next time I will give them a look.
@chorus thank you for the encouragement and the advice. As you said it did end up being more of a mini vacay as they say. A trip on my own would have been much better but wife wanted to get out of the house. Mom has alzheimer's so we can't leave her and we certainly couldn't leave her to watch a rambunctious 5 month lab pup! I have struck a verbal agreement with the Dali dealer and though no money has been exchanged I wouldn't feel right about not proceeding at this point. I don't have any doubt they are going to sound fabulous. I also purchased a pair of Straightwire Expressivo speaker cables (used) to compliment them as they are bi-wire. 

I may have nightsweats thinking about the Volti's until the Dali's are set up but isn't that always the case? In a couple of years I believe I'm doing some remodeling and removing the oddly placed closet in the living room as well as the no longer used chimney; both of which limit seating position. The Volti's might be a better option then but hopefully I'll be in love with the Dali. Either way I'm imposing a moratorium on speaker purchases for a while.
One thing I did want to mention is Greg was great and gracious and I think for a lot of people who know what they are doing they are going to be spectacular speakers.